Remeber, RobP went up against a wing chun beginner that had zero grappling experience and nearly got choked out. RobP boast 30-years of martial arts experience while his throwdown opponent had virtually none but was still able to take RobP down and almost submit him. What does that say about "real" systema they keep telling us about?
Well yeah, but I've also read a few positive reports about Systema people being able to grapple and spar from Bullshido members who are known to do non-bullshit training. So it sounds like there a few systema groups out there doing stuff which Bullshido members would recognise as good, and it would be interetesting to see it.