Always? No, just honest and you got me on a rant. You should be a bit more specific when doing your comparisons here. Not once have I compared this to boxing yet you decided to.
Omega, why do always resort to abuse!
That's because I take a neutral pov on many things and try to be as fair as possible. I have a TMA background with actual street and ring experiance that has been documented. I was fair in my accessment of systema.
The general consensus is that you are a respected martial artist on here.
Fine, but by all means besides yourself who ever said that systema punches like boxers?
No problem with that. Fact boxers are known for the power that they produce in their stikes and train to deal with strikes, including body shots. I am a respected boxer, so I think I entitled to an opinion on strikes.
And you need to get out more. Do I think that you can generate some serious power with systema, sure. Is there anything mysterious about the way they punch? No, I have too much experiance in this. I saw the way they punched and did it to elicit the reaction they needed. Sorry just because you've never experianced it doesn't mean I haven't.
Fact, whether you like the system, etc. The punches are very effective, it is like nothing that I have experienced before.
As I said before, sucker punched...let me explain. I saw the seminars as a person tried to compensate for shots, etc. Now, what we said was, if we had to just sit there and prepare for every shot coming in you would eventually be able to hit a spot we weren't ready for, catch a person off, one way or the other your body was going to collapse. Great, but none us agreed that we would just sit there and take punches like that. So what's your point. Eventually you would? Not according to these videos.
Trust me, I was prepared and it made no difference, I was not prepared to deal with the strikes that I received. I tried all the tricks that I know, exhaling, etc. It made no difference.
Who said we didn't understand? We knew exactly what was going on, and why people were reacting the way they did.
That is the point, its understanable that you or others do not understand what you see on the DVDS.
Why are you a moron? Do you even understand what you're trying to say here. It sounds to me like you think I know nothing of boxing. Do you have any idea what my training is? What the **** is this idea about boxer understanding a drill or not understanding a drill. You really need to get your head screwed on correctly vin because your statements make no sense what so ever.
Why am I a moran, I have fought for real in and out of the gym. I have knocked out guys for real and not even broken sweat, most of it not my fault. I respect other martial arts, but dont start having a go at boxers, just because they have experinced of something that you do not. What is the problem with the drill, its not a boxing drill, but a systema drill. However I am confident that decent boxers any where would undestand the drill and the benefits.
If you think I'm being harsh, that's fine, welcome to bullshido. Am I saying you're wasting time doing systema. No that's not what I'm saying. I think Systema has some solid stuff but nothing I haven't seen in many other arts. There is some serious bullshit here and if you can't see it then there's use in talking about it. 'punches that make people stronger', what a load of ****. It's psychological at best.
This is an actual exercise from the DVD-
As a person goes to hit you on your chin, roll you chin with the punch tilting your head into the punch. Allow the energy to create a wave to your opposite shoulder and ram your shoulder into the fist, essentially jamming the fist.
Problem one, can a person really train their chin to roll with it that fast for the body to react that way.
Problem two, what about the nerve cluster in the inner deltoid?
Problem three, who punches like that, most people trained to throw a straight punch only penetrate 2 to 3 inches past the initial point of contact.
These are the things we were presented with. You tell us what we were to make of that. By all means we spent nearly 3 solid weeks on stuff like this. Kobayashi sent me videos, and it would've been better if we hadn't seen them. I was ready to write an okay review before that. After that though the answer was no. I could not give systema a decent thumbs up. There's way too much bullshit in the whole thing for me to do so. I've honestly seen worse. There's alway George Dillman, Yellow Bamboo, ATA and WTF Taekwondo, Chris Bannon but to tell you the truth, Phil Elmore's book gave out better advice than this.