My 1st post albeit stirring dry mud
Ok I just have to bring up the past. He is still lurking this Kevin Hawthorne and his Ninja.
That's a sad statement on all his poor members. Me first, I was one of his "top" instructors I wore a black belt but was graded to 1st kyu with him. I was with his group for a little over 3 years and yes the TMNT craze was a great source of his initial popularity and wealth. Especially since in those days Ninja weaponry of all types was readily obtainable in Melbourne and sold off at profit. I ran a club in the city center for about 2 years probably his largest membership was there I would say I had approximately 80 members in total and a full gymnastics gym at my disposal. My students were never short of new and wonderful tricks to learn in full safety. I also had a couple of gynasts as members. So the children always had fun. My association with his organisiation is not one of my most favoured memories and he or Phantom Walker is reading this they will know who I am. I had a strong Judo and Karate & Wing Chun background and the ability to learn other arts as I wanted.
Kevin was a nice enough guy to me most of the time but he had his bully boys to keep anyone in line one being Phantom Walker another being P.P. and of course he had another called superman that was just dumb enough to do their bidding unquestionably and a few other less significants P.W. has posted here. He was Kevin's right hand bullshido man. I organised all the camps for the organisation I remember one camp in particular where PW was telling the children at the fireplace one evening he was trained in Ninjutsu in Japan when he was 5 y.o. ?! I actually brought him undone on that one as I couldn't stand the kiddies being lied to like that! He did try and make me pay for it in his usual petty fashion. I won't say how female members were treated but I can assure you many a young girl was abused by them in the guise of it being apart of the ninja acceptance rituals? I don't believe P.W. was innocent and unknowing he did to much bad and enjoyed the pettiness of it. As for the two guys that went to Sydney they were all but forced to go up there because no one else had the testicles to do it themselves. They were both good men. The poster didn't mention that on the drive back from sydney with no money that wasn't promised KH & Co. one of them was crushed to death in his car whilst sleeping in a truck bay. The kindest thing PW & KH could say laughingly was tht the semi that ran over his little car had Ninja number plates and that the guys should have stayed up there and kept the club going. How it worked in those Ninja days was young teenage boys enamored by the Black mystery of Ninjustsu would come and join. It was all made very serious and mysterious. Certain boys would be offered a blackbelt to open a club then they would be pressured into obtaining new members and fees and pay for the halls etc themselves. If they kicked up a fuss or couldn't handle it PW or SMan would be sent in to scare them or they would be brought into the HQ to face the Grandmaster in front of his desk a bit like a military inquiry. Then they would be chastised threatened and either kicked out or sent scared back to do what they wanted them to do in fear.
Then my day came, PW walzted into my city club demanding I leave and see the Big Boss he stated in front of my students how disrespectful I had been to him and the organisation he was just eaten with jealousy over my club doing so well as I was up front about the Ninja thing and basically had my students doing the equivalent of an mixed style. that gave them the tools they needed to protect themselves and develop good martial respect for each other.
I refused his invitation or order he wasn't happy about that and mumbled some threats as to how I would pay later. I didn't go then but did later, and it was the same thing, a semi lit room Kevin at the desk in the middle and PW flanking me on the side. I was given the what's going on crap I denied any disrespect to the organisation other than telling the truth PW rapped on more B.S. to which KH believed then the finger bouncing one the desk started with this is what you are going to do crap give the club to PW blah blah. I stopped KH mid speech told him I was not one of the teenagers he could usually stand over (to which he denied doing) he wasn't going to stick his thumb on my head and make me do his bidding. So I left. closed down my clubs to spite them (I also had smaller ones in Syndal & Epping) told my students the truth and that it was their choice what they do. After that KW phoned my employer and told him I had stolen money from them amongst other things and that they should cease my employ. They slashed all the tyres on my car outside of another dojo I was training at they even came into the Dojo one night and pranced around like some cheap chopsuey characters trying to prove their invincibility? They were lucky they were let do what they did that night. But anyway they did their best to sink me and my rep all over the place. Other than that we got on fine. :) Mr Walker had the potential to be so much more than he was but I guess like many the power and perceived prestige got the better of him at a young age. I worked at the same security company later that KH worked at he had a bad reputation as a bully and big mouth but mainly used it on the geriatric guards. But there training was hard and at times brutal to the point of sadism which can be attributed to the personalities of the top guys being allowed to do as they wish under the guise of hard training.
I don't know what they are like now, I know PW got into a big court battle with KH over money and rights. The Army might have been the best thing for PW? Hopefully he has grown a little and he is no longer a student of idiocy. Oh if he reads this, I still haven't forgotten you nor my great Bruce Lee collection you stole.
Some things a man can't forgive! :]
But wait there's more! Enough said though.
Apologies for bringing it all (well not it all) up. But it has been eating at me to voice that for many years hopefully it will act as warning to others.
To the guys calling me a Dirty Lurker.
"How Very Dare YOU"