My instructor once told me, that if you're still keeping the same grip after 5 seconds, you've wasted your chance and should switch or disengage. This was not the point though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judobum
But see the attitude you're giving here is what I'm annoyed at. It wasn't a primarily standing sport according to history. But rules have been added constantly and changed constantly. It has BECOME primarily standing sport, that is right, but that doesn't mean it can't be changed again. I see ippons being awarded from nowhere and I keep thinking that people can't afford to get thrown with a bad throw and then proceed to newaza because the second your forced to the mat the ref calls ippon. And if you actually tumble down there you are stood up after a few seconds. Why bother with newaza at all if the rules stop it before it can run it's course?
And you quickly dismiss it saying that those who want newaza can get their freak on somewhere else. Why? It's Judo man, believe it or not. The brazilians had to learn it from somewhere. But Judo doesn't want it anymore. I have to admit I find it a bit silly. It's like saying it doesn't belong there.
My point of comparison wasn't to say that everything should be the same. It was to mention that the two parts are quite different in strategy and execution. Trying to apply ones rules to the other is difficult, but it has apparently been done. Look at BJJ competitions where noone wants to get the worse position on the ground. The standup is extremely boring because they just run around waiting. And there's no penalty and most aren't good enough standing to overwhelm the other. This is the exact opposite of newaza in Judo. Where the rules make it hard or even pointless to perform for those who can, and just ends up as a boring stalemate for those who can't.
I'm not saying a couple of shits on bullshido should sit down and solve all problems in the world of judo. I just find the attitude and rules destroying a part of Judo. But if they want to give groundfighting up alltogether then that's none of my business.