Originally Posted by curby82I thought I answered this question but I see I didn't explain myself well enough.
The first person to cause an injury and then proceeds to cause further injuries is always the person to walk out alive, meaning it does'nt matter what you know or what I know about injuring people it does not make me immune to violence nor does it make you, because there is no back and forth in a fight when you rupture an ear drum, scratch the cornia or tear the connective tissues that holds it in, break a knee 90 degrees the wronng way, forarm strike to the side of the neck (search youtube for "pimp vs karate") and then continue to cause further injury; now you tell me how the hell do I pratice or worse spar doing this to someone at full speed who is trying to resist me, I would have to hold back because I don't want to kill anyone and by me doing that I give the other guy the opportunity to kick my head off. I thought that was answered in my quote above, but I see whats going on and I'll bite.
Now I understand that I'm not the fastest guy in the world, definitly not the strongest guy nor am I the meanest and TFT understands this and thats where it's principles come into play. It will be too long for me to explain so I'll put some examples instead even though I know I'll get 100 what-ifs senarios from some retard after.
There was this guy that took his two daughters to a local bar and there was a skin head there that said someone I guess disrespectful to one of his daughters and the guy decided to have a verbal fight with the guy, and while he was busy mad dogging, the skin oped his tool box of violence FIRST and at the end of it the dad was left with a cervical break that left him a vegetable. (oh by the way this story was posted by TFT practicionter) Now you would ask yourself what would a TFT practioner have done in that situation, LEAVE the bar while trying to look like a total *****, which gives me one of two things. 1- my ego maybe hurt but I'm safe as well as my daughers because by me engaging in the argument is like me asking him everytime I say something "do you want to kill me right now" and then the same when he says something and thats going to go on until (and which it did) until someone says yeah I'm ready to take it to the next level now, but there is no justifiable reason for me to stab someone in the neck for saying something bad about my daughters butt and if I decided to go across there and hit him once and say "let that be a lesson to you" I'd be a dead man when he recovers, so unless I'm prepared to take it to a stage where I leave the guy non functional then I need to put my ego in my back pocket and walk away. 2- by my now walking away while all the while looking like a woos I give him a false sense of security, I also get him a lot closer to me if he wants to carry it on, So that from that distance i can't miss that punch to the throat, but what would have happened if I did it in such a way to let him know that hey I want to fight you right now? I just self selected myself for a whopp ass from a guy that is bigger than me, probably faster than me and hell he's a skin head so I'm guessing he has a life of violence at some level or another so he's probably meaner than me as well, but all that goes away with a hard boot to the groin because now his size and strength are meaningless as he momentarily loses consious control over his body to execute a groin reaction, he's still mean but he can't do anything with it, his will has been trumped by the threshold switch at the top of his spine. and from there I keep injuring him until he is no longer a threat.
thats why me sparring with a partner does me no good in preparing for violence because noone comes up to you at the ATM and demands your money in thier karate stance,
The name of the system is called target focus training correct, how do I find the targets on a heavy bag, how do I throw and break a heavy bag's fingers. You are only good at what you practice at, if I practice hitting a heavy bag I'll be very good at hitting a heavy bag. it's great for contioning don't get me wrong it's just the bag does not move dynamically nor does it teach me to move dynamically, because how do you train for it, you hit it once then you back off then you hit it again then back off again, or as we use to practice before in my old school, you do a series of fast hitting techniques on the bag hitting it high and low to represent the average location of his face, groin, legs etc but the thing is, if I do successfully hit the guy with anyone of those moves his body will move away or at least it's orientation will be moving in response to each hit, so for the type of training that we do, it can only be counter productive. which also brings me to the next question, I hope I did not give you the impression that TFT practicioners don't train because we do but it does not take years of training to be able to injure someone and put them on the ground,or years to learn how to break a joint or how to transfer your body weight into your strikes, by training more you can find more challenging and visually more appealing ways of getting it done, if it is that the type of traing requires you to be faster than the other guy to be able to block his punches, or requires you to memorize specifc techniques in response to a specific attack then you will litterally need years of practice especially when the instructor is holding back all the "good stuff" for the more advance students(you know what I'm talking about right... next week we do gun techniques and then on your way home that evening wtf you get presented with a gun)
I can talk all day about the system and I know it won't change anyone's mind on the topic my only hope is that it gets you thinking. Remember the only thing constant is change
Good day gentlemen
Sorry mate but your wrong. A heavy bag/ makiwara isn't supposed to teach you anything but how to hit hard. It's resistance training for your striking muscles and if you want to hit harder their is no way around this. Also what makes you think you're going to cause a NINJURY before a seasoned criminal can?