More or less: Usually a polite guy with bad english skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
Back on topic, and trying to clarify some points about Aikido i've read in this thread.
About aikido styles:
There are different ways of practising aikido, even in the same organizations (and there are a lot of them); saying one is a Tomiki, Aikikai, Iwama, Yoshinkan... sub-style practitioner doesn't imply no badasness nor fruitiness by default.
However, there are differences in the training methodology between sub-styles, mostly based on how the aikido was trained when the founder of the sub-style learned Aikido from Ueshiba and his background in martial arts subsequent evolution once left training with the founder.
There are differences between pre-war (Yoshinkan) Aikido: harder tecnique, still very simmilar to DRAJJ (Ueshiba was a DRAJJ instructor in the 40's)
Post-war (Iwama), from 1942 to early 60's: a bit less static training than Yoshinkan but with a lot of weapons training. It was a period when Ueshiba lived in the country experimenting techniques and the relationship between empty hands and weapons (mostly sword and staff). I like to call Iwama "redneck aikido" because the typical students at this time were country people used to work in farms in the hard times of post war Japan (not the white collars who attended the Tokyo dojo).
Post war (Aikikai): Since Ueshiba went to live in Iwama and today's bigger organization. Tokio based, leaded by Ueshiba's son Kishomaru with Tohei as technical advisor: Kishomaru started to use Aikido as a business, and in the 60's started the international expansion of his view of "Aikido Inc.": A "martial art" for everybody, based in harmony, cooperation, happy people and things like that. Cause the hippieness of these times can be said that westerners easily went into that thing and "thanks" to him Aikido is widely practised Kisshomaru's way.
Of course there are other sub-styles like the developed by Tomiki (judo badass) who tried (succesfullly imho) to apply Kano's methodology to aikido, but without commercial success. Or Mochizuki, another judo guy sent by Kano to study under Ueshiba who founded Yoseikan Budo, a mix of akido, judo, karate and weapons who also has sparring competitions with a decent amount of contact.
And i have forgot a lot of other people because i don't want to start with aikido politics.
IMO, like i said before, Aikido can be used for fighting/self defense because the techniques are basically old school Japanese Jujutsu, but the way it's generally teached and trained puts more weight on the student who learns it with fighting purposes in mind.
If the practitioner doesn't have a background in, let's say for instance, Judo (like Abbe, Tomiki, Mochizuki, Shioda and another certified Aikido badasses) because living and training with Ueshiba for near 25 years like Saito is not possible anymore, or crosstrains in arts with aliveness in it's training, unless he's a fucking genius with amazing natural skills, with Aikido only he's going to be fucked in any figth against a semi-competent opponent.
Other thing is Aikido as fitness, social relation, zen in movement and assorted fruitinessess. Of course there are people who have fun travellling to "teh Moons Of Jupiter" and enjoy this type of Aikido, but don't thing you are a fighter nor act like one, because you aren't.