Guilt by association.
2.5 years to ikyu and a teaching certificate. Shodan in 05 and sandan by 08?
A pattern to be sure.
Carter Hargrave - the legend lives on.
My problem with this guy is there are hundreds of styles of kung fu and Filipino martial arts. He doesn't name any of them. Secondly, he lists Taky Kimura as a member of his organization. What's up with that?
I've always thought Joe was a great part of Bullshido. Now that I know more of his past, my respect has gone up.
Seriously, it's easy to **** up, we all know that. It's getting back up that's the hardest, and staying there.
I am the new guy here, this is my first post but I have been reading this website for several months, and I must say I LOVE YOU GUYS! First let me introduce myself, I am a student of many martial arts master of none, I studied under the late Terry Gibson for 14 years as well as a few others here and there throughout my 27 year career as a martial artist, eventually becoming a CQB/MOUT instructor for the Navy. I am recently retired from the Military and have started teaching under the MMA banner in Oklahoma City. On to the meat of the post.
How it all started... I had a student of Hargraves enter my studio a few weeks ago, an apparent 4th degree black belt, I being one who loves diversity in the martial arts welcomed him whole heartedly and allowed him to train with several of my upper students, red and brown belts mostly. Well after several sessions of his boasting about his art, I began to watch his flow and became very suspicious as he had to be tutored repeatedly on many, many things that I consider basic knowledge of any low level martial artist, of ANY art. I had a couple conversations with this 4th Dan and my suspensions grew. I asked for credentials, training background, and about his instructor, who is apparently a grandmaster of like 47 arts, this Hargraves character.
So it came time for our Christmas Bash, a 5+ hour party, with several local schools invited all dedicated to kicking the holy living piss out of each other, in good fun of course.
Well this student who we will call "Sean", joined in the fun... Well I understand how easily one can gain rank in virtually any martial art today with little to no actual skill, through gross memorization and the like, but when, in full pads a 4th degree black belt gets the crap kicked out of him by students who have just recently attained gold or green belt one starts to wonder. Towards the end of his 3rd bout, sean began to get noticeably agitated that he was not able to parry even the most straight forward of punches from this green belt, he pissed and threw his gloves off and tackled this poor student. Well lucky my student was unharmed, lol, but it gets better. I dont consider myself a master of any art, more of a big kid with lots of toys; however I have been in the arts for 27 years, and I am no push over. I pulled Sean off my student and asked him not to politely what his problem was, and he was seething mad, told me to go **** myself and attacked me. I of course defended myself and mad a rather abrupt end to this childs tirade.
Long story short apparently this child went to this teacher of his, carter hargraves, and goes off about how I said this and that and that I was coming after him, blah blah blah. I get an email from this idiot Hargraves last night stating basically that if I said another word that he was coming after me, then went on to make a few statements about my social life that any idiot with a computer can look up on facebook and then made a statement about my 3 week old baby son, that I will take as a threat.
So now I am going to organize a campaign against this idiot, I am going to do some serious research and put a few adds in the tulsa herald. I am going after this guy with every legal tool at my disposal and see where it leads.
Thanks all for letting me rant, I will keep this forum updated as I go about this process.
Welcome to the site.
I would be very interested in meeting you.
Could you perhaps post a link to your school?
Since you're willing to spend the cash to post add in Tulsa, please consider ponying up the $20 for a supporting membership. This would give you instant ability to send and receive private messages.
Our School is in OKC (Edmond), our website is not yet functional but the address is here: www.whitelion.us. This morning I get more warning messages from this loser, stating that my emails to him are undeliverable, when we had a "nice" conversation going last night. I am really good at playing games with idiots. If you would like to talk to me directly shoot me a line to "tyrrin at hotmail dot com".
Latest message from this loser: "We dont take kindly to cyber stalkers and hate speech. We can backup anything on our websites, and teach many entities."
So if you can back up your L33T Sk1llz Why don't you get on the forum and talk to us? We know you are reading this forum.
Tyrrin, you win noobie of the year award, excellent intro into bullshido, well done sir.