Thanks for the stories.
Thanks for the stories.
I was invited to one sparring session in which I took on 3 black belts and 1 brown belt and "wiped the floor" with all of them one after another (1 on 1 sparring, just multiple sessions), granted they were really fast with their hands, although didn't use their deadly techniques. Except for the brown belt, who decided that the match starts when I bow. I bowed, and then he backfisted me in the face to which I replied with an axe kick to his face. Then soon afterwards a sidekick into his armor (yes, he was seriously wearing armor.). The only one who really gave me trouble, was their top black belt of the school, who had extremely fast hands and blocked most of my attacks, I eventually just sweeped his leg and got a HUGE blister on my foot (they like to train on carpet with bare feet, cheap carpet too) and we ended it there.
where do i start?i took it for a lot longer then you did and i believed in it... as do all of the other practitioners it doesnt do much for grappling granted but neither does any other kung fu or karate except for bjj or wrestling, maybe aikido i dont know where you studied at but we did spar albeit with head gear and pads etc...the style isnt much different from tracy kenpo(pretty much the same techniques) you may not be able to fight off 20 attackers at once but i bet you are better fighter then when you started remember the system is only as good as the student....
let me qualify this to by saying that alot of the claims are very outlandish da'shifu was an outstanding fighter but saying that you can take 12 opponents at one time is proposterous most of the time i am fortunate to get my ass unhurt against one i understand where you are coming from but you should have a reasonable bullshit meter and listen to that.
This sounds an awful lot like my Temple Kung Fu experience, and I wonder if there wasn't some standard business model handed down from Ed Parker. That would explain an awful lot.
I noticed that trfcrugby echoed back some of the thoughts I had -- even as a naive young'in. The first was that a lot of the moves seemed excessive. Instructors seemed to feel really badass when they taught you a sequence involving several maiming techniques. However, I always thought to myself, "What if I don't want to hurt the other guy that seriously? What if I just want to end things gently?" I didn't feel as if I had an option.
The other thing that was on my mind a lot was the notion that I would never be able to ID a specific striking attack while it was en route and then come up with the prescribed string of techniques. The whole theory of being able to do so just seemed so unlikely. For a while, I assumed that it was my own level that was the problem and I guess you could make that argument but . . .
Anyhoo, I'm glad that you got out of there and have moved on to more productive things. It would probably be good for you to go visit and then do some friendly sparring, but it's probably too much to hope for that they would ever consent to something like that.
actually Shou Shu covers everything, Mantis is a grappling master
ive used Shou Shu many times on the street and smoked attackers
I'd like to see a video of 2 Shou Shu'ers sparring.
Wow Rugby, you remember stuff from 1988?? I can barely remember the biochem I just studied before taking a break and reading your beautiful Shou Shu experience piece.
Can we move that into an article/review section? That's a very good account I think. As for the Shou Shu'ers on the board, you could help your statements if you posted some sort of video or evidence of your resistive training - maybe some tournament footage or something?
How does the Shou Shu Mantis grapple? What principles?Quote:
Originally Posted by massattack
heres a site that talks about each Shou Shu animal, however, the people at Sheng Chi are no longer with the Moores, dont know whyQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaolin LngFst