Passing Guard from the Knees vs Standing
I just received my copy of Passing the Guard by Ed Beneville (which is an awesome book that I will be talking about for weeks, much like I did with The Triangle), and it got me thinking about the two main types of passes: from standing and from the knees.
I know from reading around the interweb and talking to people that schools and instructor tend to prefer one to another. For example, I know Roy Harris prefers standing pass, but Mario Sperry hates them and only passes from the knees. Likewise, my instructor loves standing passes, while IzzyDaHedgehog's instructor says never to use them. So you can see, there is a split on the subject, which is why I am taking this poll.
For informative purposes, I've written this little guide entitled...
The Relative Pros and Cons of Passing the Guard from the Knees vs Standing
Passing from the knees
- Keeps you low and tight, making better use of strength and weight.
- Converses energy.
- Blocks open guards such as spider and De la Riva.
- Less vulnerable to sweeps.
- Less vulnerable to leglocks.
Example of passing from the knees [Warning - PDF file]: http://grapplingarts.net/PDF/pg.%202...0300%20dpi.pdf
- Harder to uncross the ankles.
- Easier for opponent to reclose guard.
- More vulnerable to some submissions.
(That is a sample of the book Passing the Guard which started this whole discussion. Check out more at http://grapplingarts.net/Samples/samples.html)
Standing guard passes
- Uses gravity to your advantage (e.g. uncrossing the ankles).
- Offers more speed and mobility to build momentum.
- Allows for more surprise rolling and jumping passes.
- Less vulnerable to some submissions.
- Offers more submissions from the guard (e.g leglocks).
Example of a standing pass: http://bjj.org/techniques/intheguard/guardpass1/
- Requires more energy to stand.
- More vulnerable to sweeps.
- More vulnerable to leglocks.
At least that's how I understand them. Feel free to add or subtract from this list.
After filling out the poll, please add a reply to let me know why you prefer one to another. What is your body type, and how does this affect the passes you use?
For example, I'm tall and skinny so I've found standing passes make better uses of my height and mobility, and don't rely on my weight as much.
I'm also wondering, which type does your instructor or school prefer? Do you differ from this?