In the style of freestyle jj I study, we call our ranks "belts" as well. But...there's not like...a belt. It's just easier to call our ranks such so as to easily compare with other arts, BJJ in particular. At least that's what makes sense to me, maybe Walt had something else in mind entirely.
So yes, you can have a blackbelt in a no-gi style. Justin Ellison has one, I think Ben Call(sp?) may as well.
I dunno. I take off my gi and I am still a judo black belt. I am pretty sure most BJJ players don't keep their gis on all the time.
That's not what the video rant is about, though...
Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix
It's about people claiming a belt rank despite never having put the gi on.
It might be a pure semantic discussion for some, but some obviously attach emotions to the debate for whatever reason.
Fake belts will be exposed online and/or humiliated on mats, so I couldn't really care less what somebody calls his graplling experience.
I should have closed the [sarcasm] tags on my post. :P
Originally Posted by Tonuzaba
He should've defined the scope of his rant a lot better. Rants, however, by nature generally exclude well-structured introductions to arguments.
He's totally wrong about the Masters analogy though. I lost my LLM to some guy in a drunken argument :(
I think of jon jones getting his first white belt, after becoming UFC champion. (?)
He was tapping out higher belts in no gi but never claimed to have a BJJ belt rank till not so long ago when he started training GI
I don't even understand how someone could be upset by this when there is no uniform standard defining a black belt within gi arts. With the exception of bjj which has done a good job at making the rankings more "standard" the term black belt has become so diluted due to the large amount of schools that just hand out belts "just because" how can anyone be upset over this?
Isn't it like being upset about the type of gun someone is pointing at you rather than the freaking fact that there is some dude pointing a gun at you in the first place?
Gi, no-gi IMO the real problem is schools doling out undeserved rankings. But that too isn't worthy of fussing over cause there just isn't a way to regulate it.
Why bother. If you can fight you can fight if you can't you can't. If you go into a combat sport or competition then that becomes a ranking. I think too many people worry about rank rather than just becoming better and this argument is probably part of a by product of that.