Originally Posted by Phrost
Something some folks don't understand about SWAT's role in warrant execution is that it's not SWAT who gets the warrant or searches the house. During a warrant all SWAT's role is is to enter and secure the place being searched. Once that is accomplished the scene is turned over to detectives and regular patrol to continue their investigation.
There's also an important distinction between a conversation regarding the use of tactical teams and regular patrol officers wearing ACU's. Most SWAT teams are part time affairs staffed by regular officers who suit up only when needed.
Phrost, you'd have an aneurysm if you took a look inside my buddy's patrol vehicle. He's a former Marine sniper working for the Sheriff's Dept. He's part of the tactical team and they serve felony warrants nonstop in a rural county.
They take full advantage of his skill set and he's equipped with all the gear he needs to provide surveillance and cover in a rural environment, right down to the ghillie suit.
I get just as angry as the next guy when I'm watching the news and see a botched or over zealous police raid. But as far as the discussion about how the community should be served - I'm confident in my buddy's case and in many other cases the community wants them doing this work. The Sheriff is elected and motivated by self interest. If the local citizens were upset it would stop. They want these raids. They just want them done right.
My question is when LEOs raid the wrong place the people who where cuffed and put on the floor face down for 2 hours asks who or what org or dept. do you work for? Are the LEOs required to ID themselves ? This happened to a friend of mine. A user was caught holding and the deal was point out your suppler and we let you go. They drove this "kid" around for hours before he pointed out my friend's home. No drugs or stolen property were found. No sorries or contact this number for the damage done. Joe
I don't know how they do things there ("police" seem to get lumped together as a homogeneous group..but we all do things differently). Here we have to leave a copy of the search warrant at any place we hit.
Originally Posted by MarJoe
When it comes to getting warrants it again depends on how the police there do things. A person can go before a judge and swear that he saw/purchased drugs at a house and the judge can issue a warrant based on that testimony. I like to have an actual purchase of drugs from a house before I get a warrant....surprise, surprise some people like to lie that they saw drugs at an enemy's house in order to get a combination of cooperation with the police and revenge.
Kudos to Phrost for linking to that Tiabbi article. Just goes to show that if you're big enough and high up enough, you are virtually immune to prosecution. The real deal isn't so much whether cops wear camo, but whether HSBC is still laundering drug money for the cartels - and who is turning a blind eye.
This got me wondering, if a twenty-man PD ended up having to serve a warrant to one of a potentially violent group of people, say an anarchist-toned survivalist commune, what should they do?
Originally Posted by tgace
They should probably call for the support of a regional SWAT team and/or the state police team.
Originally Posted by Hertzyscowicz
tgace is correct; when a smaller department forms a team like this, it eats up a majority of their resources. In my area, we have Homeland Security funded, regional teams. A twenty man department may have one or two officers assigned to that team on a part-time basis.