So, I've just read through all this, and whilst it's obviously a complex subject, and is a potential minefield of potential scholarly debate... I think I've got the gist of it.
Well done everybody.
I think we are ready for the serious forums now.
I'll see you guys over in the advanced striking forum... lets go show them what we know!
Bring on the Arockalypse, the Day of Rockoning.
They were born of atomic steel
Life and death to them was so unreal
Gibsons and Hoovers
The first two UFC championships were chock full of hillarious (and painful) answers to that question...