Small three month noob, gotcha.
Originally Posted by tangler
So you are experimenting with guards, sweeps, etc. I fail to see how this has anything to do with size, you should be doing that with everyone.
So here are some things that I think change when facing much larger opponents (and if you are a smaller guy in general).
1.) Full Guard:
I have noticed that bigger guys have the advantage in full guard in a number of ways. If you are in their guard, due to their size, they have a much easier time of controlling you than you do them, because they can apply their weight with their legs more effectively to draw the smaller guy in deep to their guard. Also, they can break a smaller guys full guard much easier by standing up; even with a strong full guard (which I have), I have literally been picked up in full guard, where the big guy just used his size and gravity to claw me off.
I try to avoid being put in full guard all together as a smaller guy, especially when I'm in a Gi and have handles the big guy can use (in nogi, I have found that I can use my speed and slipperiness to escape full guard, even against bigger opponents). If the opponent is in open guard I try to pull a 50/50 instead of risk the pass.
In order to control my opponent when he is in my guard, I will generally try to sweep him if he tries to stand and break my guard with force. Otherwise I will constantly be switching my guard positions, to keep him in control, one good guard that I usually fall back on that I have found easy to maintain as a small guy is half guard, although advancing from this position can be tricky.
Learn to maintain the position. Right now that should be your mantra, "position before submission". If you can't hold a dominant position, forget applying an attack from it "quickly" and work on holding the position. Seriously, stop thinking that you need to "get the tap" in training. Work on your weaknesses. Your weakness is your top game. Getting the back seems to be a move you are comfortable with, cool, if you are getting it regularly, it is one of your strengths, you won't "lose it" if you don't do it. Work on your weakness.
2.) Full mount:
I have noticed that big guys have a huge advantage here. They can hold smaller guys much more effectively in this position and can more easily Upa (sp?) the smaller guys who can achieve mount. I have found that if a big guy gets mount on me, its over. Conversely if I get mount on a big guy he will often just muscle out of it with his size. If I fight him and brace with my hands, I can sometimes hold him, but the minute I let up for side mount or go for an armbar, they guy will hip out of the mount or Upa me.
I try to avoid full mount as a offensive position against bigger guys. If I find myself in it, I know that I will either have to attack fast, or use it as a setup for a different move. Instead, I have developed my guard offenses and focused on taking the opponents back as an offensive move.
You're doing it wrong.
3.) Arm bar:
This part is bound to be controversial, but I think that the arm bar is much easier to pull for bigger guys, who I notice will often use strength in leu of technique to muscle the attack. On the offensive, as a smaller guy, I have found that it is really difficult to pull the armbar free from armbar defenses; one guy much stronger than me even used sheer bicep strength to prevent me from competing the move; this sort of thing happens often, and if I try to get the arm free, the bigger guy will often just roll me over and break free. In contrast, when I try armbar defenses against bigger/stronger guys, they will often times bypass them with sheer strength.
Once again, you're obviously experimenting with what works, this is a good thing. Your role at the moment is to survive. You learn and adapt to do so.
for armbar escapes against stronger/bigger guys, I have learned to use the position of my body to free up my arm in hopes of an escape. This usually works. (Of course bigger guys usually dont do this, they just rip free).
Yeah, don't worry about submissions until you can control your opponent.
For executing an armbar against bigger opponents, I am still stuck on this. I have focused on different submissions, particularly chokes that I am able to apply without fighting the opponent's strength once I sneak past their guard. Any suggestions?
This attitude is somewhat disrespectful. You're three months in and you tap "bad" blues. Stow that **** right now. A three month white belt would have me trying out new **** I have just learned on them. They might be going easy on you because you're a fucking noob. You might be spazzing the **** out and instead of getting hurt themselves, they just allow you to have a tap.
Also, as a smaller guy who has rolled with all kind of opponents, I have found it easier to tap blue belts my size (some - probably the bad ones) than white belts much larger than me. I know as my technique improves and my style develops this will be less of a problem, but I think that will largely be because my style will have to adapt to fit my smaller stature.
I am probably the larger end of the average size of my gym. By far not the biggest, but definitely not the smallest. I have a lot of trouble with smaller blues because they have some wicked technique, I have a lot of trouble with bigger blues because they have technique and size. I have trouble with some of the bigger whites while I am on par with some of the guys my size who are blue.
What do you guys think? has anyone else experienced the same problems against larger guys? Different ones? How do you counter them?
FORGET RANK. Work on positional dominance. If you are having trouble with your armbar, it is because you are not securing it right. When I lose an armbar it is not because such and such had wicked bicep strength (FUCKING NO ONES BICEP IS STRONGER THAN A PERSONS CORE), or because they're strength enabled them to get their arm out. MY TECHNIQUE SUCKED and thus I worked on my armbar technique until it worked. Now, when I go for an armbar, it is slapped on right, tight and no matter how hard they fight, no matter their size, I'm taking that arm.