Crap. People expend real effort in trying to win. Pro fights or wars. Those who do not have that objective in mind--pro fight or war--will train to "harmonize with a partner" or some such thing that will get them stomped in a pro fight and/or killed in a war.
Originally Posted by Inventor
"Classical Martial Arts" of where and when, by your inimitable estimation? Define "classical" for us please.
The bugei (classical martial arts) are not sportive and thus a budo form interested in attaining or preserving combat efficiency must also avoid sportive endeavors of all kinds.
Participants in randori, free-sparring and rolling don't end up hurt and bleeding at some point? Really?
A true fighting art cannot be practiced without concomitant element of danger, nor can it be brought to a practical conclusion without the spilling of blood.
An excellent description of many combat sports. Put the padding on and hit for real. You can even try it without the padding if you want.
However, in order that it may be practiced at a time when there is lack of martial applications, training methods must be designed to control it without reducing its combat values.
Yeah, 'cause there's no such thing as rules in warfare *cough*Geneva*cough*Convention*.
Rules and regulations enabling a fighting art to become a competitive sport tend to reduce its combat effectiveness.
Which is why open-ruleset sparring, in a context such as Vale Tudo, is useful in attenuating and mitigating such effects.
With this watering- down process combat values weaken, often disappear, and elements unrelated to real combat creep into the exercise patterns.
It is seen in how effectively its practitioner deals with fights. That's why it's called a "fighting art".
The index of a true fighting art is seen in its training methods.
Bullshit. Kata are full of techniques that people have tried on me over the years with little or no harm done (except sometimes to themselves because they were only used to hitting air). Those same techniques can become effective when taken out of the kata and practised, first on bags and targets, then in drills featuring progressing levels of resistance on the part of a partner, then against a fully-resistant partner in open-ruleset sparring.
A bugei or budo is a true combat system only if, it is practiced in kata form for the tactics and methods of such a system are such that no conclusion between opponents can be reached without resulting in injury or death.
EDIT: I know, I know. But my lunch had an item in it that I don't usually eat, and the troll made sad-puppy eyes.