you seem to be thinking a lot in krav scenarios..
if your teachers don't work at higher speeds / full resistance, even if they would want to adapt to the input of a noob, they wouldn't want be very qualified.
pressure testing off hours has the same problem: no qualified instructor.
As mentioned it's a little disrespectful to buy gear and bring it to class and ask to spar. If they don't already spar I wouldn't expect them to start just because you say so. If you want to spar go find a school that does don't try to change your school. If you insist on sparring your liable to get your ass kicked by the instructor. Or perhaps your school doesn't spar because you have a lot of newbs and the instructor wants the group to develop some fundamentals first.
I appreciate the point on FMA I may take a trial class there is a good looking FMA in downtown Denver http://coloradofcs.blogspot.com/
Can I ask what form of FMA is best for empty hand? I am not interested in being the next Dog Bros and I don't buy that sticks are readily available for SD. My whole point is SD not MA for MA and fun, if that comes with it then great, but SD is the goal. I am not walking with a cane and have never seen a bastone in the street or anything similar. A lot of the wood I see in the streets isn't suitable for wielding like a bastone. It jagged with nails and crap not something I want to grip in my hands and swing away with.
I do outside sales and have to look professional so at this point I am just interested in open hand, no knives, guns, collapsible staffs, etc. I was honestly interested in FMA because it looks so effective and efficient and you do the same move with/without the bastone so that makes a lot of sense.
With all due respect but three months of training is like nothing to learn a style properly. If you want instant gratification I would opt for MT, MMA or KravMaga. Simple basics and immediate sparring from day one.
If you want to learn a certain more principle based style properly it will take you more than one year to get decent basics. If that's too much, better switch to something else.
After a year of basics sparring might be done more safely since you have more control over your movements.
KM actually had some good things on the trial class, but it was very expensive, and confusing at times, ie. trying to ask some basic questions with the music blasting. Some things in the KM class were flat out dangerous IMO. Blasting away at 100% with small pads and sloppy combos because you are exhausted from the pace. I got pretty banged up and have had ppl in KM tell me they get hurt on semi regular basis because people get sloppy with their drils and bang someone hard by accident. It's like our school we move so slow most of the time I don't' think its effective and then you have the KM school blasting 100% from day one which is not good. A middle ground is needed.
I am actually looking at learning Senshido Shredder as its affordable and appears to work well. I am not looking for aesthetic value I just want to be able to get down and dirty quickly to defend myself and my family. I am not looking to turn this into a hobby at this point.
The thing I don't know if I believe in is our Silat guru, whom I will leave nameless because I am trying to work out some issues with the school is this focus on grace and relaxation until the point of impact. That just seems esoteric and unrealistic in a real SD scenario to me. Even the guys whom have been going there for awhile only pressure test occasionally, and never against another style. I think what I have see would work against avg street thug but not against a BJJ blue belt or higher.
So far I have learned to move offline from attack, some basic defense and attacks, so it has been helpful. Its just very 1 dimensional in that we only practice attacks from front on attack. But they are trying to teach me Silat stuff without going into the triangle work that I see traditional Pencak Silat doing so its no wonder I don't understand where move someone they have left some gaping holes in their instruction IMO. Teaching me about center line without the core parts of Silat like the triangle work is leaving half of it out.
Most FMA schools are fairly comprehensive. While the stick is the most well known and common training tool seen in FMA it is NOT the only thing you learn to use.
Focus tends to be on "anlges of attack" and not necesarily the item you are attacking with. Variations on technique come from adapting your angles to different weapons. Be it hands feet knees and 'bows, a whip or a rock you just picked up of the ground.
Specific unarmed FMA disciplines are Dumog (very nasty, sneaky grappling) and Panaktukan (FMA Fisticuffs). *eta: Mano E' Mano (also FMA fisticuffs, usually with grappling elements)
I haave yet to train with any FMA instructors that did not include both of these elements as part of the curiculum. While there ARE specialists in both of those arts, techniques and principles from both Dumog and Panaktukan are an integral part of every FMA school I've ever trained with. Even when playing with sticks and knives you still use your boxing and grappling skills. Yes, you heard that. You will grapple with knives. It's ugly. That's why they practice with wood.
FMA, at least as I've learned it, really is a type of "MMA". "FMA is only for weapons" is a common missconception passed around by people who have never actually done much FMA.
And yes, it does work "on the street" in my experience as long as you are actually "fighting" with it and not dancing like when you do drills. The fights I've "won" using what I know were all empty hand. Your mileage may vary.
Machette, thanks. I have done some limited research on FMA empty hand and it seems to focus on limb destruction do I have that right? Then once you destroy the limbs you attack the body. Like what Khajkimbo, sorry spelling, adapted from one of the founders that had an Arnis background.
The reason why I was drawn to FMA frankly, is it looked damn cool and effective in Bourne and Mission Impossible, I know its Movie Fu, but they are both using Kali in those movies I have been told. They angular attacks seem very efficient.
How long does it take to become proficient on avg. just learning empty hand FMA or whatever I should call it. Not even my guru's can agree and they have studied it. Some call it Arnis, some Kali, etc.