Several of our teachers are also graded in Sho Sho Ryu/Muhen Yogan Ryu and teach this SEPERATLY from the Shin Tai Ryu curriculum.
If you are referring to this..(Sho Sho/Muhen Yogan Ryu) then THIS lineage in Holland STARTS with Mark and then the other Shin Tai Ryu teachers who studied in Japan under Takahashi Shigeo and other Sho Sho Ryu teachers.
Mark and the others HAVE a Mokuroku in these arts and the permission to represent Sho Sho and Muhen Yogan Ryu up to THAT level.
Using non-Shin Tai Ryu Affiliated links until Shin Tai Ryu
Judo/Jujutsu to Europe: Yukio Tani,
(Only these wrote books therefore considered documented start of Judo/jujutsu in Europe)
Judo/Jujutsu to Holland: Pieter Toepoel
Toepoel to Nieuwenhuizen.
Start of DUTCH jujutsu: Maurice van Nieuwenhuizen,
(started the official dutch organization JBN and NVJJL)
Judo/Jujutsu to Tilburg: Cor van Unen
Member of NVJJL http://www.nvjjl.nl/
co-founded and taught at: http://www.judoklub-tilburg.nl/
Start of Shin Gi Tai: Jo Horsten (Mark Sterke's Teacher)
Relation to JBN: http://www.jbn.nl/nieuws/archief/DU6...o+Horsten.aspx
Start of Shin Tai Ryu: Mark Sterke
page 36 has Sterke, with Jo Horsten and the Sho Sho Ryu Grand master: Takahashi Shigeo
Mark Sterke - Sho Sho Ryu
Mark and the Sho Sho Ryu Grandmaster during a demonstration.
Contact the Sho Sho Ryu yourself for further proof
There's something strange about NOT being Koryu but still want to pass on teachings the way a Koryu would structure its program?
It's no crime to choose how to teach and simulating an existing way.
Here come the misconceptions about Shin Tai Ryu and Koryu again, When only Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yogan Ryu are taught as Koryu.
Shin Tai Ryu is just modern dutch Jujutsu and doesn't NEED to have Koryu fundamentals in its transmissions because its NOT Koryu.
(The teachers simply added some niceties that resemble Koryu ways of doing things due to their experiences in japan for more fun experience for us students, but nowhere does Shin Tai Ryu claim to BE Koryu because of this.)
The Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yogan Ryu DO however, but have nothing to do with the Shin Tai Ryu style and teachings and are taught Seperately from the Shin Tai Ryu curriculum...
please don't confuse Shin Tai Ryu with Koryu !!!!!!
Because We don't.
Shin Tai Ryu is a continuation of the Dutch jujutsu passed on since M. van Nieuwenhuizen see my first answer in this post.
Existing techniques were improved upon, categorized in a new program on how to pass them on (katas) and thus evolved into Shin Tai Ryu jujutsu.
(No Books, DVD's involved)
I highly doubt a Koryu system would allow just anybody to REPRESENT them outside of Japan with little training or their own interpretations of it through books/videos.
2nd row 2nd pic: Where this was declared.(Grand master on the left his wife, then Sterke.
Shin Tai Ryu teaches Shin Tai Ryu jujutsu which is a version dutch jujutsu just like the germans have German Jujutsu and The U.S. American jujutsu.
And Shin Tai Ryu is not named after an Existing traditional style.
the History of dutch jujutsu in dutch from the official Dutch Judo/jujutsu website
YOU insist it is a mixture japanese,chinese, unknown influences.
I believe they're all linked. therefore yes
(even if some started independently they all came in contact with others through wars,duels and more peacefull ventures.)
I hold that dutch Jujutsu... is whatever M. van Nieuwenhuizen taught.
Lineage is based from teacher to student, who in turn can become a teacher teaching a next generation of students and so on.
Only Sho Sho and Muhen Yogan Ryu are taught as Koryu
The website loosely allows different affiliated schools to provide or ask for workshops to/from each other
Asayama Ichiden-ryu Jujutsu is a Koryu workshop I attended.
These Koryu workshops were offered but I couldn't go at the time
Hozoin ryu Takada-ha
Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto ryu
Then there were the following workshops which I attended but do not know the heritage of.
Tatsu ryu Bushido. www.tatsu-ryu-bushido.com
There are more.. but I suggest you contact the Shin Tai Ryu it self for that list of adresses.