I'm not being THAT general, if you can believe it. Just the same as Kali is a general term for stick fighting or whatever the hell it is in the states... same thing I'm doing. I'm not being terribly specific, but what I AM talking about what I do PERSONALLY. I'm not going to knit pick about styles, but Sinawali is the easiest example of empty = weapon. Should I say American Filipino Martial Arts that ALL use sinawali drills? Should I go get out an encyclopedia of FMA styles and schools that incorporate Sinawali into their training? Do I need to start calling up teachers and asking how many of them learned Sinawali? How about we start holding interviews?
Seriously though, how many different slices and jabs and blocks are you going to get with just two arms that only bend in certain ways, all have the same joints and general anatomical structure? There are only so many ways you can swing a stick or poke someone with it and still actually hurt them. That's probably WHY sinawali exists in the first place. If styles of FMA are anything like Silat, the differences between styles range from very small to very large.
That's all it really boils down to, though. The idea is to naturally flow into the next move, isn't it? That's what Sinawali is for. That's the guiding principle behind it seems like most FMA styles if you want to get technical. That's why you'll find flow drills all over the place.
So maybe I'm right. :I
Just for the record, **** that knit picking. If you know what a sinawali drill is, I want your opinion. DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, SIR? HOW CLOSELY HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE DRILL? I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TECHNICAL ASPECTS, SO PLEASE, CAN WE DO THAT NOW? Please? C'mon. :I
Ok, so when applying FMA stick principles to empty hand. Are you saying that each angle relates to a specific strike or specific response to a strike? Using your angle 1 example. If I take that stick swing and adapt it to an empty hand strike, to use it literally it would seem to me that it is going to be a hammer fist strike to the temple or neck area. Is that correct? If the wrist were turned over a little bit, it becomes an over hand right. Is this how you change the attack angles into empty hand techniques?
Then the opposit angle along that same line ( / ) you would use as a back fist?
and yes, i fucking disagree with you.
now, your turn - how closely have you looked at "the drill?"
The angle 1 attack in empty hand from what I've seen, is capable of doing many things. In the most literal sense you get something like this: A punch thrown from your right side might land, BUT just the same as you would bring your stick back to your opposite shoulder, you do the same with your hand and you use an open palmed block to stop that attack from touching you. This is where your foot work REALLY comes in hand. If you're like me, your hand isn't fast enough to strike and block, so you have to move out of the way a little to give yourself time.
What I see the angle one strike used for most often in empty hand is stopping the incoming punch by meeting it, and then the chamber motion gives you A LOT to play with. You can guide the arm over away from you after you've met it, you can grab it and manipulate it into a better position etc.
Your second strike in sinawali comes from UNDERNEATH your right hand. So after you've swung your slash and you've bought your hand back up, the second slash comes out from your rib area. To translate that into open hand, you may end up with something like this:
After you've made the initial punch/block, your other hand comes in UNDER your striking hand to either put a strike elsewhere, do damage to the limb while you have it in your reach, or simply hold it where it is so that it can't do anything else. With that last part, think "wet towel". It doesn't take a huge amount of power to do your checks.
Now remember where your primary striking hand is. It's probably up by your shoulder defending your face, or moved more toward your middle. This how we tend to make our openings. Because you've defended and in doing so cocked your striking had back in the process, your retaliation should be immediate. This is how we go on until we get in. Remember your foot work. If your counter strike is blocked, guess where your left hand is now that your right hand isn't hovering over it and it's over THEIR striking arm. The opening for the attack is still there.
Watch closely. This is your sinawali drill.
Now look again. This is your hubud drill. If you want to skip ahead, start at 0:53. Notice the similarity in where his hands are going as compared to any heaven, standard or earth sinawali drill.
I hope the visual aids help.
I didn't back pedal at all, friend. I was asking you if you agreed on the importance of the sinawali drill. Remember that you were the one who took that statement out of context. Maybe my wording isn't so great sometimes. Let me ask the same question a second time. " Do you think that the sinawali drill is extremely important because it is a foundation from which you can throw any attack or block with any weapons? " is that clear enough for you, tim? I'm not giving you anything to chase, you're just pulling stuff out of nothing.
now, are you going to answer my question?
You're never wrong unless you get hit. Or die. Anyway, you'll have to excuse me for not responding to you in full. This arguing is boring, and at this point, it almost seems more beneficial to just start the topic a second time so that we can do this right. Again, and I've said this before, it's a general style. South East Asian Combatives. It's a mixture of various forms.
Beside that, I never said that anyone was wrong. I just posed a question.