This thread started in Eskrimador's newbietown intro thread: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=113541&page=1.
The relevant quotes are copied below for you lazys. In a nutshell, do you think empty hand=weapon=ect? Why or why not?
We do train with weapons. I just like empty hand best, but it should be said that Empty Hand = Single Stick = Double Stick = Knife = Sword. Anything you can do with a weapon you can do without a weapon. It's just a matter of adaptation of principals. Sorry if I was too vague before. In any case, I just find it a lot more practical to have hand to hand combat down pat because I'm probably never going to have a sword or my sticks out on the street.
Ah! I understand what you are saying. This is the same stick vs empty hand idea that some of the stick people I have trained with believe. The current guy who is teaching me is a little different, but I have trained at my brother's school a few times and he has the same ideas.
Could possibly be a good thread to open up further discussion, because I am curious about everyone's training and aplication of these ideas vs my own experiences.
Either way, welcome to the forum Eskrimador!
It might be best like Diesel said to start a thread on the stick=empty hand debate, I'll look into it later and see if one already exists.
For now I'll just throw in my two cents. IMO stick techniques with some modification of principles can translate to empty hand or knife but I don't think it is the best way to do it. If you want to be adept at empty hand train an art that specializes in empty hand just like you'd do with grappling.
One of my FMA training partners and the highest ranked in my local group ascribes to the stick=empty hand group of thought. However, he approaches empty hand with the assumption that an attacker may have an unseen weapon. To me it seems the most efficient way to block a regular punch is much more direct and simple than how you would block a "punch" that could be holding a knife. I think it would be much more difficult and therefore less efficient to treat every punch as a possible knife attack.