I guess I misread this:
I also failed to acknowledge that dancing is an advanced striking technique.Quote:
...So go ahead and unload your thoughts, criticisms, and general mockery. No quarter will be asked. Or given.
I do apologize. Carry on.
"Dance Class" isn't all created equal. Something like the suggested swing dance (I think I read jnp did that for awhile) and salsa (which Teh El Macho did/does) have very quick fast movements which will translate to quicker foot/leg/hip movement.
Something like traditional ballroom dance is going to have a much different set of skills which got along with it. You will still get added benefit from the learning to shift weight and mass forward and backward and sideways in a refined and delicate manner, but it will depend upon what skillset you are looking to pick up.
Both will help you be lighter on your feet but, for you, what are you wanting to do with your new "non Frankenstein feet"? But quicker with in and out side to side motion or feel lighter with more control and have gliding motions?
Dancing can't hurt, but to be honest there are probably better things.
Can you skip? I mean skip like a boxer? For more than 30 seconds? Learn to do that.
You should also incorporate footwork into all of your pad and bag drills, don't just stand in front of the fucking things wailing away like it's Rocky's stupid face and you're Ivan Drago.
Oh yeah, and shadowbox like a ************... I don't mean "do 5 minutes for warm up, and then **** it because I look stupid and feel awkward". I mean, like a ************.
If none of that works, go do the Tango.
Edit: I know this is basically "take moar boxing", but **** you and the tap dancing shoes you walked in on.
Wait, tap dancing... that might work.
-CMA forms will tend to teach an exaggeratedly low and wide stance, while salsa will teach to keep the feet close so they can move fast.Quote:
Not saying Salsa or the Tango won't help you, but I think you'd be happier learning a form (just one...come on...be brave...it won't bite).
-knowing a form is infinitely less applicable with the ladies. Be brave and learn salsa.
I found kung fu to hinder my attempts at salsa, because I was used to having a wide, low kung fu stance, and its exactly how you can't move in some types of dance. FMA on the other hand, teaches dance forms that apply to Latin dance well. The carenza, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by W. Rabbit
I'd deny it, and dance experts would agree with me, but that's neither here nor there regarding traditional forms.Quote:
Regardless of how you feel about the utility of forms (and of course that differs depending on what style we're talking about), you can't deny that modern wushu is some of the best competitive "dancing" there is.
Some may be, some obviously are not.Quote:
Taking that idea a step backwards to non-wushu kung fu, those "finer" points of movement and body connection that come with dancing are also clearly there in the forms.
Learning hung gar to get better at dancing is like learning dancing to get better at hung gar.Quote:
Case in point: I have always been a very terrible dancer my whole life, but since I began learning some of my kung fu forms, I've improved significantly on the dance floor...another way of saying I no longer look like Frankenstein myself, but now a lot looser, with much more deliberate motion, better footwork, and more than anything, more precise movement when changing directions/circling.
There is a decent history of pro and non-pro American sports players who learn ballet and other forms of dancing as "radical training methods"...old Slate article discussing a Sports Illustrated article on this exact subject:
Even Yoga is mentioned, which is another possibility (and usually cheap and taught at many gyms).
But anyways if he doesn't want to do forms it's understandable. Too much overhead in trying to find a decent enough instructor, whereas you can tell right away if someone can Salsa or not.
The SI.com article I posted above is a GREAT resource, you can see what kind of "radical dance training" pros are using and generally, both they and their coaches are loving the results.
Just because you hopped on here with an obvious comment and then a shitstain opinion doesn't mean nobody is going to call you on it. Welcome to Bullshido. Apparently 4 years of lurking has taught you ****-all.Quote:
No quarter will be asked. Or given.
And I'm sure you fail at a lot of things. This is more than likely not the first time.
And yeah, I'm a big fan of Pumping Iron. While Arnold worked diligently at his ballet, Franco blew it off and Lou hulked along. As a result, The Governator was posing 3-1 with his comrades. I'd bet ballet was especially the difference between him and "The Bat" in the final.
In short, I'm totally open to "alternative" methods.
Edit: Thanks for the article. That was a good help.
I guess if you have unlimited time then sure take a dance class. BUT if your goal is simply to improve your footwork for fighting I'd do some drills that people with good footwork tend to do.
I was actually in the same boat as you for a while because my first instructors were very traditional muay thai coaches and they only taught the feet on railroad tracks thai march footwork. Then I got my ass handed to me by a guy that was moving backwards the whole fight and I was well and truly confused.
My coach at that time was a black guy that was built like and moved like Anderson Silva. He had me do footwork drills at the end of every class for a year. If you are interested in drills instead of dance classes let me know and I'll post some stuff.