It was, essentially, an isolated incident.
So, you feel insulting people is better than your original post? Interesting.Quote:
Much faster than I can pick up on my own posts and edit them.
See that go advanced button? You can use that before you post.
My opinion is none of your concern. You have some posts on this website I don't appreciate. Then again who cares? I'm not here to follow your idead of what is appropriate or funny.Quote:
I don't appreciate what you'd think is OK laugh at though,
What case? Have you read the thread?Quote:
at least not in this case.
There are quite a few fatalities every year just in London.
Amongst them servicemen and martial artists like Boxer Gary Mason.
So no, cyclists getting mowed down is not an isolated incident.
To get an idea of how regularly this occurs check the page below:
At least to me it's a topic that is highly charged.
I see what's going on now. You are tying it all into one huge argument. Snake is not talking about, or laughing for that matter, at the point of cyclist safety. What you posted are singular events not an organized protests which led to cyclists getting ran over, on purpose, by a motorist.
That's fine and I bet you have no clue what I am talking about anyway.Quote:
Your last example, funerals and all that. Still not funny.
Anyone that lumps everyone together deserves it as well.Quote:
Yep. Anyone who laughs about that Video deserves it.
is critical mass a constructive way to attack the problem of drivers who kill a horrifying number of *law abiding* cyclists on the streets of NYC every year? probably not. however, is it a reaction against a real problem? yes.
of course there are douchebag cyclists who run red lights and are a danger to themselves and others. are *all* cyclists like that? no.
there *are* drivers out there who actually go after cyclists and run them off the road with a 2 ton car. pretty brave, buddy, but in my book, that's attempted murder and the cyclist should be able to pull out a handgun and splatter said driver's brains all over their side window.
we have a bunch of drivers who are angry at all cyclists for the actions of a few, and a bunch of angry cyclists who are angry at all drivers for the actions of a few. plus here in nyc we have those fucking cab drivers who are the most serious menace on the road.
getting real bike lanes that drivers respect would be a start, but i don't know what the answer is.
I have neither laughed at the incident nor said that they are wrong for protesting. I said trying to equate a protest with someone getting killed in a war is not the same.
So, I am lumping together everyone that laughs at snuff videos and doubt their intelligence. And that makes me a stupid?
I also tried to point out how this particular piece of snuff is highly charged to me and others. I have already explained that I didn't want to say both incidents are qualitatively equal, and next time will try to chose my words more carefully.
If that leaves you aggravated that ain't my problem, but what the hell, as you said I don't have to like everything you post and vice versa.
As for the funeral biz:
We have those nutcases here in the UK as well. I do know what you mean. Distasteful and disgraceful no doubt, and they are WEIRDOS, I agree with you on that for sure.
But I stand by my point that a video of killing them would still not be funny. It'd be snuff, and snuff ain't funny.
My two cents...
This is partly a problem with the built environment. A lot of the time, it's not designed for cars and bikes.
Most bike riders and drivers are law abiding and sensible, and are hampered by poor infrastructure. The road's just not built for both. This can be dangerous and frustrating, but it's not necessarily the fault of road users. They try to accomodate one another, but the roads suck, and it's stressful and annoying.
But the few in each camp that are assholes make the situation worse, by taking out their frustrations on one another. This will not make things better for anyone.
To my mind, a successful protest movement will enrol car drivers into the cyclist's cause, with the aim of persuading the relevant governments to make serious changes to the built environment. It will not just be about asserting power in numbers, and royally pissing off drivers (who might also be cyclists any other day). This just results in a stalemate or stand-off, which will accomplish nothing but the stroking of egos pretending to be warriors in a righteous cause.