Jonathan Stamey: MMA instructor and video boxer
Hi to all on Bullshido. This is my first post to this site, but I have been lurking for quite a while. I have never felt the need to post, or interject my opinion because someone else more qualified has always covered my thoughts in a more convincing manner. This keeps me from getting reamed, and also keeps redundant post off of the interwebs. This has changed due to the fact that I have found something strange in my back yard.
But first, I need to introduce myself. I am a 31 year old bjj blue belt in Hickory NC. Bjj is a hobby for me. I train two to three nights a week under Roger Carroll (he is a Pro fighter, who is belted under Joe Hurst out of Concord NC) here in Hickory.
Sherdog link - http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Roger-Carroll-29226
I have been training for about 3 years now. I have no allusions of how good I am, but I enjoy the process of learning bjj so much that it pushes to continue. It also provides an outlet for stress and built up physical energy. Since I am is sales, and do not do much physical during the day I need the outlet that it provides. I will answer any further questions about myself should they arise, and need clarification.
This thread began with a search on the Googles. Since Hickory is not a huge place, and the training population in mma and bjj are quite small, I know most of the people who partake on a regular basis. There are only two active gyms here in town now, one being SMA (where I train), and the other is Guerrilla Tactics MMA (where I have quite a few friends). Upon googling "hickory nc bjj" out of boredom , I found a new "gym" run by Jonathan Stamey. I, nor any one of my training partners have ever heard of this gym or Mr. Stamey. This is very odd because, as I said, Hickory is not a big place. The "gym" is called Atlantic MMA, and seems to operate out of an aerobics room at a real gym called The Spa. This is about a mile from my house, and i know from experience that they do not have the room to shove a full mma training center, much less proper matting in there. His web site confirmed my suspicion, and scared me all at the same time.
Web site to follow: http://www.atlanticmma.com/
Per his video introduction he is offering instruction in self defense, competitive mma, and law enforcement ranging from striking to grappling. Stranger still his web site seems to focus on selling his e-book and two dvds: The Fighter's Diet, FAST HANDS: Boxing Strikes for MMA, and FAST FEET: Boxing Footwork for MMA. To top it off he mentions none of his qualifications to teach or instruct on any of these subjects. He also has a download called The Boxing Bible for MMA: Everything you Need to Know to Box Successfully in the Cage. That is a very bold claim and title for someone who I can find no training back ground on. This continues with Fast Hands, woops I mean, FAST HANDS dvd description:
"Why you should buy the Fast Hands DVD
You're getting all my "AH-HAH" moments about punching from over 1200 hours of trial & error. I had to figure it out mostly on my own, but you won't have to!
Now I'm not saying you couldn't figure it out yourself or with the help of a "good" coach. It's certainly possible for you to get to my level of boxing over the course of time with some hard work and lots of analysis (I mean I'm no pro), but why take the tedious route and risk getting lost when I'm handing out directions!
I promise you no single seminar could accelerate your skills as quickly as this DVD...and it would cost a year's worth of classes or hundreds of dollars in privates to get the instruction I'm providing here for a mere fraction of the cost.
I've organized the information in a way that it will systemize your striking, so there's no guessing and it will be easy to learn.
FAST HANDS represents my knowledge and practical experience from 4 and a half years of training, $1000's of dollars spent on classes, coaches, and instructional material, packaged together all for only $27.
Now I don't think $27 is a lot for how much the information inside will improve your punching, but that's just me...education has always been priceless in my mind.
So if you truly can't afford it (trust me I know the feeling) and still really want it--I don't want to be the one standing in your way. Just shoot over an email with your story and an amount you can afford, and I'm sure we can work something out."
I have found no fight record for this guy, or anything else that leads me to believe he is legit boxer. Everything out there seems to be geared towards pushing his wares. His co-instructor Morgan Blanton does not show up at all on anything other than Atlantic MMA. As best I can tell he is a Krav Maga instructor and fitness trainer at the gym where they film this stuff (local hearsay). And yes, they put the Krav in the MMA training so your know its good.
I will leave the videos on this site to those who are more versed than I, but personaly, I found them lacking in many areas.
The Atlantic MMA site led me to their youtube page as well. This really got my hackles up (as a grappler) as he tries to explain how to preform complex grappling moves on a dummy that looks like the gimp from Pulp Fiction. I should think he has at least one friend or at least his mom to help him demonstrate this stuff. No video has a hint of being alive. He also shows a 17 hit ultimate combo at one point in a video. But as I said I will leave the videos up to others for better analysis.
I do not know this guy, nor am I out to get him, but I do not think it it right to sell material to people when you are not proficient in it. He makes no claims as to skill level nor does he seem to have any verifiable qualifications, but yet is willing to sell you material that he says will make you a better fighter. That does not make sense. He is also willing to train someone to defend themselves in the street or in the cage if you show up at his place and pay for his time. He claims he is writing a beginers mma blog on his myspace, but yet he still going to take money from the beginners who he says he is trying to help. As I said I can find no fighting record for this guy, boxing or mma. I just do not think it is correct for people to give money to this man for his knowledge.
I am not even going to bring up the podcast on his site as I do not think they matter in this, but they are there for those who want to listen.
Please look into this. Also I have brought extra lube for myself just in case.
Pro boxing link? http://www.workingclasscardioworkout...nathan-stamey/
Boxing for MMA: http://www.180mma.com/training/mma/5...-for-mma-style