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  1. lordbd
    I have read some sources that talk about practicing "power generation' either through developing whip-like force or other means. It's all very vague though. If you have a moment and would like to comment on that it would be great. If one was interested in trying to break a block or coconut one day, is the basic conditioning enough, or does one also need to learn how to hit harder?
  2. Mor Sao
    Mor Sao
    Do not worry about power generating methods.

    Train the foundation for at least 1-2 years.

    Power comes from whole body power combined with the tempered hands.

    Ridding the body of excess tension through the standing exercises helps this.

    Learning about how to bring power up and out of the ground vector to help you hit harder is taught after you have trained the hands, mind and body through the training.

    I will share all this as people train more.
  3. lordbd
    So for now it sounds like the relaxation that comes with standing meditation PLUS the forging of the hands are the key components.
  4. Diesel_tke
    Diesel_tke
    I finally started yesterday. I did 2 sessions per the Dale protocol. I woke up this morning and did it again. I see where you were at week one, wanting to do more. I'm not going to, because I'm just stoked that I'm on the path. I know it will come, but yeah, you want to do a few more strikes!

    I didn't think there was any reason to start a new discussion, is that cool that I just post some updates on your discussion, or you want me to start a seperate one? I'm not going to update every day, just milestones.
  5. lordbd
    Just keep posting here in this thread! I just finished my session for the morning. After all of that dabbling around I circled back to just following Dales qi gung. I don't do the arm grabs and stuff for more than a few reps because I'm weight training to build the muscles and tendons. Got a killer forearm workout. Please comment on how you like standing meditation.
  6. Diesel_tke
    Diesel_tke
    I like it I guess. I'm not sure what exactly I'm supposed to be getting out of it other than increasing the blood flow to the hands and being mindfull of what I'm doing. I've read a lot about the microcosmic orbit stuff with the Taiji that I do, but I'm not decided yet on where I fit into the whole thing. So I'm going along with it basically because I figured, why only follow half the program. So, I'm gonna run with it and see what happens.
  7. Mor Sao
    Mor Sao
    Standing teaches you a few concepts. First and foremost is learning to relax. We have way too much tension and people carry around excess tension.

    This is not good.

    You want to rid the body of this. Over time this will help you relax, lower your BP as well as help with making your muscle fibers relax. When this happens you have more muscle fibers available versus having muscle fibers that are already stretched and tense. This will help you move faster, and hit harder over time.

    You also will learn about the ground vector. We are perpendicular to the ground and you need to understand this. Force can be moved through my physical structure and be absorbed by the earth. You then can learn to bring power up and out of that same path/vector and express it through your structure into people and things. You do this when you break bricks and/or hit people.

    relaxed power is what you are aiming for.

    Any questions let me know how I can be of service.
  8. lordbd
    Just a brief update: I must say that the timing was right to switch to the gravel bag from the bean bag. I had almost forgotten how tough it makes me feel to have my hands be a little bit beat up, and it makes me think that I'm actually stressing my body to the point that the recovery process can result in changes to my body. In other words: the bean bag was getting too easy, now I've kicked it up a notch and I didn't realize how much I had missed my bruises.
  9. Mor Sao
    Mor Sao
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    Unlike any of my socalled competition, I offer a gallon of premade Iron Palm or Injury Liniment for $199.00 and that includes shipping within the continental USA.

    I do not see this lasting more than an hour or so.

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  10. Diesel_tke
    Diesel_tke
    Thanks Dale. I've learned a lot about relaxing over the years, I get what you are saying.

    I'm starting week 2 and so far so good. No bruising or pain or anything like that. So everything is going along as expected. I am enjoying the bag time, and the kids are having fun watching.
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