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  1. Saw some of your posts, I also am from Gaylord/Vargas/Juarez liniage. I started with Vargas in 1968 and went with James in 1975 when he branched out on his own. was just wondering if you were there in those years?? on another note Im coming home for a family wedding in june and am staying in hawaii kai/ Kahala so was wondering where to train/visit/teach Im gonna try and hook up with Jason Groff and Sifu Al I hope.. any way just wondering if I knew you....
    Ron Esteller
    estellermma.com
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