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Conde Koma
9/10/2010 1:02pm,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/dboyzero/GEOL20Aff02-1.jpgGeochilmaru
“The Showdown”
Korea, 2005
Genre: Action
86 minutes
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480685/

Eight strangers from a martial arts website are brought together to challenge the mysterious Geochilmaru, one of the strongest fighters in Korea.

Based on an interesting premise that hits close to home in this internet age, Geochilmaru is a fairly decent ride exploring the basics of martial arts themed movies. Bringing together a variety of styles and personalities, the film is more of a study of martial artists than a narrative story. There is a distinct lack of polish to the production values, with generally poor camera work and lighting. The script and dialogue lack depth, but the actors do what they can with the lines given. Surprisingly, one of the selling points is that the director chose to use pure martial artists instead of seasoned actors for the roles. There isn’t a great deal of dialogue to begin with, but the non-actors still read better in this movie than several other martial arts films I could name with much bigger budgets. This is not to excuse the poor production of the movie, only to say that it did better than I would expect of a project with a low budget, no actors, and a boring script.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/dboyzero/ehpk3_287461_1449799-1.jpgTechnical issues aside, the film is interesting for its subject matter, with memorable and engaging characters most likely based on the performers themselves. Centered around a popular martial arts website, the fighters are brought together and speak face to face for the first time. Exploring the ideas of online- compared to real-world personas, deceiving appearances, and the motivations for pursuing martial arts, Geochilmaru had a great deal of potential in expanding the genre. However, instead of rising to the challenge and creating something new, the film follows the same tropes of shoddy fight movies that came before it. Speaking out on the inferiority of “combat sports” compared to “true martial arts” and “practitioners over styles,” it’s like looking at an outdated concept film on the subject of codified violence. Culturally, I suppose I’m not really surprised that the Japanese Karate stylist is easily the weakest and most pathetic character in the movie, and that national pride trumps empirical evidence. There are some genuinely fun moments littered throughout, but overall the film is a giant eye-roll for experienced fight fans.

The action scenes themselves have about as much effort put into them as anything else in the movie, but they are held back by a lack of planning and seasoned stunt people. While all the performers are certainly talented in their respective fields, almost none of these transfer well into cinematic fight choreography. The fights are mostly clumsy and slow, relying more on camera tricks to sell impact than strong performances on screen. Like the rest of the film, they started off with a neat concept, but failed to develop it further with the necessary steps and specialists. Geochilmaru can be pretty fun if you have a passing interest in style-on-style match-ups, but for casual viewers this movie is a rental at best.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/dboyzero/seaoflee_247553_1357403-1.jpg

Siniq
9/10/2010 3:20pm,
YouTube - The Showdown (2005) Part 1 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7unFHIC_VTo)

There. It's impossible to find this anywhere online, so don't **** with this video.

Snake Plissken
9/10/2010 4:04pm,
Dude, Sirc TOTALLY posted about this movie like a year ago, so he's cool.

Soldiermedic
9/10/2010 4:32pm,
Phrost is going to steal this idea and create a secret Bullshido tournament

helmutlvx
9/10/2010 5:00pm,
What are you talking about?

Omega is the only one that can actually fight. Anyone else just swings from his nuts and poke fun at "true martial artists".

It is Fake
9/10/2010 5:17pm,
Geochilmaru, aka "The Showdown": A Bullshido.net Movie - No BS MMA and Martial Arts (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36025)

PizDoff
9/10/2010 5:31pm,
http://x03.xanga.com/afea73ea6803462894876/m42167139.jpg

Hahaha, that move is like 'Blizzard kick!'

Conde Koma
9/10/2010 11:14pm,
yeah, I saw Der's thread, but i'm unable to reply to it. i was surprised that we had startlingly different reactions to the film. not just der, but reviews i'd read online were praising it for the "realistic" fight scenes. anonymous people on the internet i can forgive, because they most likely don't have any real martial arts training, but derauslander should know better. the fights weren't at all well choreographed, and the only sense that they were "raw" was that it was underdeveloped and left a bad taste in my mouth.

i suppose since the film is online for free, people can watch it and form their own opinions. still, with stuff like Old Boy and Fighter in the Wind to compete with, i really have to doubt the eyes of anyone calling the fights from geochilmaru "well choreographed."

It is Fake
9/11/2010 1:55am,
yeah, I saw Der's thread, but i'm unable to reply to it. i was surprised that we had startlingly different reactions to the film. not just der, but reviews i'd read online were praising it for the "realistic" fight scenes. anonymous people on the internet i can forgive, because they most likely don't have any real martial arts training, but derauslander should know better. the fights weren't at all well choreographed, and the only sense that they were "raw" was that it was underdeveloped and left a bad taste in my mouth.

i suppose since the film is online for free, people can watch it and form their own opinions. still, with stuff like Old Boy and Fighter in the Wind to compete with, i really have to doubt the eyes of anyone calling the fights from geochilmaru "well choreographed."He should know better? Really? Your opinion and film studies are so experienced that you are now an authority?

Wow.

The fact you lumped two different types of Fight Choreography together is funny considering Der should know better.

Conde Koma
9/11/2010 2:31am,
i didn't lump them together as the same style of choreography, i chose both those titles specifically because they are different, are also from Korea, and are much better than the fights from geochilmaru. a lot of people think of fight choreography as a trade-off between flashy/entertaining and realistic/gritty. Fighter in the Wind is on the flashy side, Old Boy is on the gritty. Geochilmaru is neither.

i'm about as much an authority on fight choreography as anyone who's watched piles and piles of fight films. still, if you think my assessment of geochilmaru's fight scenes is inaccurate, i'm open to your counterpoints.

Rzero
9/11/2010 1:30pm,
I liked it. Didnt think the acting was that bad really.

DerAuslander
9/13/2010 6:33pm,
but derauslander should know better.

Having read a few of your reviews of Asian martial arts movies, I'm going to put this to you gently.

You need far more familiarity with the cultures & themes represented in these movies in order for your reviews to carry any weight.

To put it bluntly,

Your reviews suck.

Shut the **** up.


the fights weren't at all well choreographed, and the only sense that they were "raw" was that it was underdeveloped and left a bad taste in my mouth.

You probably went to see "Machete" expecting a moving, hard-hitting dramatic analysis of situation of migrant laborers in Tejas, didn't you?


still, with stuff like Old Boy and Fighter in the Wind to compete with, i really have to doubt the eyes of anyone calling the fights from geochilmaru "well choreographed."

The fact you even bothered to compare Geochilmaru with Old Boy & Barami Paiteo just shows how little understanding of the genre you actually have.


i'm about as much an authority on fight choreography as anyone who's watched piles and piles of fight films. still, if you think my assessment of geochilmaru's fight scenes is inaccurate, i'm open to your counterpoints.

I've trained and worked as a stuntman.

Your assessment blows the balls of the goat who's head Rambo played that crazy mounted football game with in Rambo III.

Also, the American version of this film is currently in development.

Conde Koma
9/13/2010 6:44pm,
hey man, i'm reviewing these movies (all of the movies) as just another guy with an opinion. i've never claimed to have any special weight to any of them, they're just my thoughts as a consumer of pop culture.

the fights in Geochilmaru were terrible, and i explained why i thought so. Old Boy and Fighter in the Wind both had much better choreography, impact, and photography, even though they are miles apart stylistically. Since you've worked as a stuntman, can you explain what you liked about Geochilmaru's fights? you and IIF seem to disagree with my opinion on the film, but I'm still waiting to hear why.

It is Fake
9/13/2010 6:49pm,
IIF seem to disagree with my opinion on the film, but I'm still waiting to hear why.I think you might want to reassess this statement. Make sure you look at what I replied to.

Conde Koma
9/13/2010 6:51pm,
Okay, I was going by the intonation of your post. Can you explain what you personally thought of Geochilmaru's fight scenes, so there's no ambiguity?

It is Fake
9/13/2010 7:06pm,
Okay, I was going by the intonation of your post. No you weren't you are still confused. I responded to your comment about Der and the "lumping" of fight choreography. I said nothing at all about your review.