my personal favorite thing i ever said to a gold bricking student was at my monday night class, which actually is a great class full of hard working and dedicated kids.

a child was having an off night and he just couldn't get his footwork together. i asked him what his problem was and how did he want me to correct said problem.

he started crying out of frustration (the kid was 12).

i looked at his mom, she nodded at me, i looked back at him and said, "YOU LITTLE GIRL SCOUT, YOU'RE GONNA COME INTO MY CLASS AND START CRYING OVER NOTHING? YOU'RE GONNA WASTE YOUR MOM'S MONEY LIKE THAT? GET OFF MY FLOOR UNTIL YOU CALM DOWN! AND IF YOU SIT OUT THE WHOLE CLASS, YOU OWE YOUR MOM HER SIX DOLLAR CLASS FEE! YOU WANNA GO MINE SOME COAL TO PAY HER BACK??? NO??? GOOD, GO GET SOME WATER AND GET BACK HERE AND GET TO WORK!"

the kid came back and put his work in without problems, except for singing "i've been working in the coal mine" (to the tune of i've been working on the rail road) during his kata.
You're classes are 6 dollars?... where do you teach again?

You're classes are 6 dollars?... where do you teach again?
yep, my classes are 6 bucks a go. i work for young champions of america.

Thanks for any tips and advice offered. Omega, dude I'd LOVE to do something like that. Whilst I can't outright say "You fucking little *****." I find other..'polite' ways of telling some of my kids they are in fact pussies. Oh yeah and the girl he sparred against is 12 years old.....

White Kimbo, nice story LOL!

And to provide a little background. The reason I was particularly patient and "kind" to this kid is there was another incident in a different class where I kicked a kid out and his mother had a titty attack.

This class was for green belts all the way to red belt. So once I began teaching I started having problems with this one blue belt and his twin brother. The younger twin is the one whom primarily acts up. When it got too much I said "Is this the martial arts or is it tea time? Stop acting that way or get out my class. Your choice." Whole class got quiet and he shut the **** up...for a while.

Last part of the class I did pad techniques. After doing punches I switched to kick combinations. He was goofing off and making silly faces. I told him give me 20 knuckle push ups. Second time he acted up I told him get into push up position and hold it until I say so. This is what transpired.

"No that is not a push up position. Stop bending your back! Keep it straight! I said hold it until I said stop!".

The final time he mumbled something and rolled his eyes. I stopped the class.

"So now you're back talking after I repeatedly warned you? Know what get out my class. You want to act like a 3 year old little baby then that is how you will be treated."


He hesitated before finally walking away crying and whining. I then looked at the rest of the class. "Anyone else want to act that way?"

Continued class with no issues. Next day mother comes in accusing me of being mean and unfair. I simply said "Well how would you prefer for me to discipline your son's rude and disrespectful behavior?" She got quiet and didn't say another word.

Point is that after this kid I decided if I was going to reprimand a kid in class I had to try and do it....in good taste I suppose. However from the comments here I suppose it wouldn't hurt if I went to my old way of doing it.

These stories sound identical to the ones I hear from teachers in our school systems. Nothing, no matter what, is ever the kid's fault and somehow a teacher is always singling them out or being "mean". The reason your kid is failing couldn't be that he doesn't do his work or acts like a jagoff in class...no, couldn't be....there MUST be some other explanation.

These stories sound identical to the ones I hear from teachers in our school systems. Nothing, no matter what, is ever the kid's fault and somehow a teacher is always singling them out or being "mean". The reason your kid is failing couldn't be that he doesn't do his work or acts like a jagoff in class...no, couldn't be....there MUST be some other explanation.

Personal responsibility. The true dying art in this world. I always prefered horse, bow and cat stance for punishment instead of push ups.

These stories sound identical to the ones I hear from teachers in our school systems. Nothing, no matter what, is ever the kid's fault and somehow a teacher is always singling them out or being "mean". The reason your kid is failing couldn't be that he doesn't do his work or acts like a jagoff in class...no, couldn't be....there MUST be some other explanation.

Its pretty absurd really. I mean, if a school teacher reprimands a student for being disruptive or disrespectful or whatever, and said student goes whining to their parents, nine times out of ten their parents will (quite rightly) side with the authority figure (what with them being professional and all).
You almost never hear of parents complaining about their children recieving detention or whatever.
Why should MA training for minors be any different? The need for discipline still remains.

Stu xD

Its pretty absurd really. I mean, if a school teacher reprimands a student for being disruptive or disrespectful or whatever, and said student goes whining to their parents, nine times out of ten their parents will (quite rightly) side with the authority figure (what with them being professional and all).
You almost never hear of parents complaining about their children recieving detention or whatever.
Why should MA training for minors be any different? The need for discipline still remains.

Stu xD
Yeah, but the kids who are bratty are the ones who have parents (usually single mom) that let them do whatever they want. They naturally side with their kids because god forbid their kid is angry at them. The other times this happens is when the kid tells the story first. If the parent doesn't spend much time with the kid in question, they'll take the kid's side. Until the teacher tells them the whole story and the parent realizes their kid is a liar and a crybaby.

And to provide a little background. The reason I was particularly patient and "kind" to this kid is there was another incident in a different class where I kicked a kid out and his mother had a titty attack.

Pics? I'm having a hard time visualizing this as a bad thing.

is that really what putting your hands over your ears means in india?

ALSO, a 15 year old kid like that is already boned for life. leave it at that.
well i dunno if it goes for all of india but it was lie that overthere.
they sorta rub their earlobes and over their ears.
but to a westener it looks like: nanana cant hear you!

Yeah, but the kids who are bratty are the ones who have parents (usually single mom) that let them do whatever they want. They naturally side with their kids because god forbid their kid is angry at them. The other times this happens is when the kid tells the story first. If the parent doesn't spend much time with the kid in question, they'll take the kid's side. Until the teacher tells them the whole story and the parent realizes their kid is a liar and a crybaby.

That kind of depends. If the parent isn't minded to spend much time with their child, how likely is it that they'll sympathise when said child comes whining about something-or-other-that-happened-in-school-today? They might feel partly responsible for their child's behaviour (don't spend much time with them, should be a better role model, etc) but surely this wouldn't cause the parent to challenge the teacher. In fact, I'd argue it'd cause them to do the opposite.

Single parents can obviously be forgiven for not spending every hour of every day with their children. But their absence is born of necessity (they need to work hard, right?) rather than of apathy. If I were a single parent, and I worked my backside off all day to give my kid a decent upbringing (kudos to those that do) I wouldn't tolerate them acting bratty or spoilt. I know precisely zilch about parenting, but that seems fairly logical to me.

I realise that imbecilic parents, who think that their child/ren can do no wrong, exist. But from what I've seen, these are pretty rare. Most parents are savvy enough to realise that if their kid comes in shouting, screaming and gushing crocodile tears, then they've done something wrong and are just looking for sympathy.

My mum works with kids, and she bollocks the hell outta them if they step out of line. They go crying to their parents, who tell them (in as many words) to stop whinging an get lost.

£0.02

Stu xD

Holy **** 15? At that age I was kickboxing and people were getting dropped left and right, yet nobody complained. I can't really imagine somebody of that age acting like that.

The 9 year old kids at my Ju Jitsu club get hurt sparring, and they only cry for like 3 minutes before going back to normal.

Do you have a copy of the pictures you could use for a caption competition?

God I wish. If I ever see that woman again, I'll be sure to see if she kept a copy.

On the opposit side I was at a tourny and saw this yellow belt couldnt have been much older than 11 compete against a taller green belt no matter how many times she got knocked down she kept on getting back up her face was covered in bruises IMHO they should have stopped the match I was really impressed by her guts she made the green belt go to the final round.

my FAVORITE parent of all times had to be the father (also TKD black belt) of an 8 year old boy. this kid knew more techniques than his classmates because he practiced with dad at home, and sometimes committed classroom shittery of the 3rd degree.

the first time he did it, he was playing with a stray hair that had fallen on the floor from a girl next to him who had waist length hair. i was discussing how to do a proper round kick and when i turned to face his side of the class i saw him fucking around. i asked him "what's so important on the floor that you can't pay attention?"

he said, "i dunno"

i responded "well, you'll have plenty of time to figure it out while your doing 20 pushups for me"

his dad was in the classroom at the time, and after class came up and shook my hand, thanking me for not being soft on his misbehaving boy. i offered him a job on the spot.

Is it me or is it mostly mothers who take offence to they're kid being disciplined in class as if the sun shines out of their arse?

Its pretty absurd really. I mean, if a school teacher reprimands a student for being disruptive or disrespectful or whatever, and said student goes whining to their parents, nine times out of ten their parents will (quite rightly) side with the authority figure (what with them being professional and all).
You almost never hear of parents complaining about their children recieving detention or whatever.
Why should MA training for minors be any different? The need for discipline still remains.

Stu xD

Hellz no. Nowadays the parents side with their little spunkbreed. A mate of mine was a teacher 9as in school system, not MA)in London for a few years. She got so fed up with kids getting to what they wanted she quit and moved to Devon. Said she'd reprimand a kid, parent would accuse her of racism and headmaster would side with parent to avoid scandal/lawsuit.