Some time ago I had a sparring session, Sanshou style, against this guy. I decided to keep to the basics and just work on feeling him out for the little time that I had to spar with him. I ended up defending and getting thrown around for most of the fight, and he almost caught me with a couple huge looping overhand rights.

Thing is I only got to feel him out for like a minute before everyone switched partners. :( In any case, I was wondering... how would you guys have tried to deal with this guy? He's got really fast hands, good kicks, tons of takedowns... In the one minute I got, all I figured out was that I should really be trying to counter those overhands.

Got a video for reference.

http://vimeo.com/10128849

He's the guy that has a black strap tied around his right bicep.

Thank you all in advance!

It's kinda hard to pick out weaknesses from a highlight video for obvious reasons. Also your description "He's got really fast hands, good kicks, tons of takedowns..." doesn't really give us much to go on. Also Russian san shou fighters are fucking scary. Have you seen that dude Salihov Muslim?

YouTube- THE BEST FIGHT OF SANSHOU: RUSSIA (MUSLIM) VS CHINA (Xu Jiaheng) round 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZyL8cLGkbY)

In short, I don't think we are gonna be able to help you.

XFD. Yeah sorry about that man, best I could find on short notice. And yeah, this guy was taught by Muslim or trained with Muslim or something crazy along those lines.

Some time ago I had a sparring session, Sanshou style, against this guy. I decided to keep to the basics and just work on feeling him out for the little time that I had to spar with him. I ended up defending and getting thrown around for most of the fight, and he almost caught me with a couple huge looping overhand rights.

Thing is I only got to feel him out for like a minute before everyone switched partners. :( In any case, I was wondering... how would you guys have tried to deal with this guy? He's got really fast hands, good kicks, tons of takedowns... In the one minute I got, all I figured out was that I should really be trying to counter those overhands.

Got a video for reference.

http://vimeo.com/10128849

He's the guy that has a black strap tied around his right bicep.

Thank you all in advance!

Interesting fighter...

I had to look at the vid several times, the weakest part of his game is the boxing, but even that is still very, very good.
The only chance you would have is pure English Boxing, fighting "inline", so upclose and personal and ferocious (Mike Tyson style), but even that would be a slim chance.

Interesting fighter...

I had to look at the vid several times, the weakest part of his game is the boxing, but even that is still very, very good.
The only chance you would have is pure English Boxing, fighting "inline", so upclose and personal and ferocious (Mike Tyson style), but even that would be a slim chance.

I could see this working. Try boxing up close but fight crouched, you have to get under him or he will get under you, and probably dump you on your head.
..boxing on the outside is a possibility, but tbh what he lacks in technical boxing he'll make up for with kicks so stay close.

bait him from the outside, catch his teep, and do a rolling takedown with his leg. if that's legal in sambo.

and "sending a robot back in time to kill his mom" wasn't an option.

Barge in get bashed and treat it as a learning experience.
Then target him to spar every chance you get try not to get flogged as badly each time.

I don't see how that will help.

Barge in get bashed and treat it as a learning experience.
Then target him to spar every chance you get try not to get flogged as badly each time.

ihis is not YMAS, it's the advanced striking discussion forum...so it's moderated.

Really need to see a general sparring vid. Highlight vid shows none of his mistakes usually and I don't get a sense of how he sets things up or how often he throws what (does he *really* throw far more kicks than punches or are there more kicks because it makes for better highlight material), or even how he moves around.

I also don't know what your skill level is (I would like to be able to toss the judo bbs at my club, but, for the most part, it isn't happening no matter what tips I get) and I don't know what your toolbox is like.

I did like watching the video though, sanshou is a very cool ruleset and he's got an exiting style.

Sorry. If he had a specific question or issue eg cannot escape a jab or gets caught with a leg kick etc then there would be specific advice that would help. My impression from the post is this guy is just alot better. There is no trick that will overcome that and the only answer is exposure.

I agree i thought that was pretty good advice. The way to get better is to spar people at a higher skill level than you and continue improving. The OP might just not be skilled enough to face such a competitor and any advice given might not be helpful at all. I really think a general sparring video of the OP and the guy in question would be most helpful this way we can see if there is a tremendous skill disparity between the two or there are certain things the OP needs to tweak to do better.

Hm, well I don't think I'm as experienced as he is. I've been seriously training (by that, I mean in something legitimate) kickboxing since the beginning of Grade 11. So it's been around four years now. I did some BJJ for about a year, we roll in class sometimes now too.

I tried to look for another video of him.

YouTube- Breaking Point Mixed Martial Arts Promotional Video and Highlight Reel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXQqdkNjJ7s) 3:03 is when his part starts. I don't know if it'll help. He has some videos on facebook but I don't know how I can make them viewable for you guys.

Once I'm fully recovered from my exterior intercostals injury I'll see what I can do about upping a video. We might have to wait until the end of April when there is an in school competition, though. Perhaps I will even fight him again! =D

And no, while I think he is better than me, I don't think it is an unsurmountable challenge. I don't really want to think about besting the guy right now, but my question was more focused on how to better deal with him. It's the little victories that count and I think all advice helps in this case -- I don't have the luxury of sparring with him whenever I want, after all. Otherwise, that is what I'd be doing. I love fighting people better than I am because like you said, it inspires me to try harder and does help me become better.

Thank you for all your responses thus far!

Hm, well I don't think I'm as experienced as he is. I've been seriously training (by that, I mean in something legitimate) kickboxing since the beginning of Grade 11. So it's been around four years now. I did some BJJ for about a year, we roll in class sometimes now too.

I tried to look for another video of him.

YouTube- Breaking Point Mixed Martial Arts Promotional Video and Highlight Reel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXQqdkNjJ7s) 3:03 is when his part starts. I don't know if it'll help. He has some videos on facebook but I don't know how I can make them viewable for you guys.

Once I'm fully recovered from my exterior intercostals injury I'll see what I can do about upping a video. We might have to wait until the end of April when there is an in school competition, though. Perhaps I will even fight him again! =D

And no, while I think he is better than me, I don't think it is an unsurmountable challenge. I don't really want to think about besting the guy right now, but my question was more focused on how to better deal with him. It's the little victories that count and I think all advice helps in this case -- I don't have the luxury of sparring with him whenever I want, after all. Otherwise, that is what I'd be doing. I love fighting people better than I am because like you said, it inspires me to try harder and does help me become better.

Thank you for all your responses thus far!

Just like I expected, his boxing is indeed his weakest part and he has the bad habit to drop his hands when he kicks.
Like I and MMAMickey said, English boxing, upclose and personal from a crouched position. If he tries to create distance, 45° up sidekick in the ribs and again sticking to him.
Now it's easier said than done, be sure of that, but it's the only way you are going to have a chance.

Hey man, how many fights do you have? (like in competition, not just sparring).

And do you train Sanshou? Seriously training for 4 years, so you must be decent.

I actually know Sabir, if you want to spar with him or any of our other fighters, just let me know, and I can arrange it. We're always looking for good sparring partners. :)

Hey man, how many fights do you have? (like in competition, not just sparring).

And do you train Sanshou? Seriously training for 4 years, so you must be decent.

I actually know Sabir, if you want to spar with him or any of our other fighters, just let me know, and I can arrange it. We're always looking for good sparring partners. :)

Haha you humor me man. Like I said, my serious training has just amounted to finally finding a legitimate school and working hard with it. As evidenced in my former posts I think I have a ways to go before I'd be capable of being a good opponent for Sabir, that's why I'm asking for advice! :)

Thank you for your offer though, it's really nice of you to extend an opportunity like that. Training with people at Sabir's level could only be good a good experience. I will definitely talk to you once I feel more confident in my own abilities! I know Sabir works really hard though, so I'll need to work harder once I recover if I want to stand any chance at all.

I was planning on breaking into the competition zone soon -- I want to do it after I move out from home and have gotten myself a bit more of a solid plan in life. It will definitely be a harsh transition, though.