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Tyrsmann
12/23/2009 11:47pm,
YouTube- ORV Team Fyrd - Gunnar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIsiJE39gzc)
A group called the Odinic Rite has a BJJ team called Team Fyrd. I just wanted show this since I thought it was cool. Not surprisingly martial pursuits are very popular within American Asatru.
Hedgehogey
12/24/2009 12:37am,
'Odinist' is often codeword for 'cultural essentialist/white supremacist/reactionary.
SoylentNinja
12/24/2009 12:45am,
mark up another euphemism for skinhead I guess...
Whacker
12/24/2009 12:48am,
Right, because germanic neopaganism is for racist caucasians of European descent.
:rolleyes:
Hedgehogey
12/24/2009 12:48am,
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Not quite. There are plenty of non/antiracist skinheads too and plenty of Nazis with hair.
But considering this group's site makes references to the "special demands of the 'black' and 'gay' communities" and displays the lightning rune in their youtube account DOT DOT DOT
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karateman911
12/24/2009 12:50am,
Odinist have martial pursuits because their religion is a faith of strength and power (look into their history). Pagan Scandanavia was riddled with tribal warfare and human sacrafices.
Christianity outlawed human sacrfices and brought order and sanity into the land. These people live in America which is a Christian nation--one that has laws and not cult sacrifice or village pillaging. So these people are probably supremacists who would like to see this country become from "God Bless America" to "Hail Odin!"
They are full of crap. The only reason why they live in peace is because of this nation's Christian culture. If this was a pure Odinist nation it would be like living in ancient Mexico or the Gaza strip--a **** hole filled with violence.
SoylentNinja
12/24/2009 12:51am,
well Imma gonna shutup now before I say something real dumb then...
Kickapoo
12/24/2009 12:51am,
mark up another euphemism for skinhead I guess...
You mean boneheads, not skinheads. I would avoid making this mistake around legitimate skinheads, as they aren't too keen on it.
EDIT: Also, I was under the impression Gunnar was simply a nickname, but I think it's rather odd it's his given name.
karateman911
12/24/2009 12:57am,
You mean boneheads, not skinheads. I would avoid making this mistake around legitimate skinheads, as they aren't too keen on it.
EDIT: Also, I was under the impression Gunnar was simply a nickname, but I think it's rather odd it's his given name.
Not odd at all. My family line goes back to Gunnar or (originally) gunnr which mean "battle". Many of them went into the Scottish highlands and later changed the name into "Gunn."
Whacker
12/24/2009 12:58am,
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Not quite. There are plenty of non/antiracist skinheads too and plenty of Nazis with hair.
But considering this group's site makes references to the "special demands of the 'black' and 'gay' communities" and displays the lightning rune in their youtube account DOT DOT DOT
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Humor me a bit then. I found the Odinic Rite website, and what appears to be the Team Fyrd myspace page, but didn't see anything referencing the "black" and "gay" communities. Mind you I didn't look terribly long, but a link would be nice. I also withhold judgment based on the Sig rune usage, it all depends on context. In this case though, I will say it does look a bit suspicious, based on what my understanding of how the actual rune "should" look like in use.
SoylentNinja
12/24/2009 12:59am,
Odinist have martial pursuits because their religion is a faith of strength and power (look into their history). Pagan Scandanavia was riddled with tribal warfare and human sacrafices.
Christianity outlawed human sacrfices and brought order and sanity into the land. These people live in America which is a Lawful nation--one that has laws and not cult sacrifice or village pillaging. So these people are probably supremacists who would like to see this country become from "God Bless America" to "Hail Odin!"
They are full of crap. The only reason why they live in peace is because of this nation's Lawful culture. If this was a pure Odinist nation it would be like living in ancient Mexico or the Gaza strip--a **** hole filled with violence.
Sorry couldn't resist but I fixed your erroneous statement.
Kickapoo
12/24/2009 1:02am,
Also, I think the title of this thread may be wrong, as 'Odinist' refers to the racist movement. Asatru follows the same ideas without the white supremacy, although I'm not really a scholar on the subject.
LonerFu
12/24/2009 1:06am,
Odinist have martial pursuits because their religion is a faith of strength and power (look into their history). Pagan Scandanavia was riddled with tribal warfare and human sacrafices.
Christianity outlawed human sacrfices and brought order and sanity into the land. These people live in America which is a Christian nation--one that has laws and not cult sacrifice or village pillaging. So these people are probably supremacists who would like to see this country become from "God Bless America" to "Hail Odin!"
They are full of crap. The only reason why they live in peace is because of this nation's Christian culture. If this was a pure Odinist nation it would be like living in ancient Mexico or the Gaza strip--a **** hole filled with violence.
I love this type of propaganda.
Especially as it willfully ignores human sacrifices that have occurred in America, in the name of God, namely witch burnings.
Methinks karateman should be quiet, or research more.
Kickapoo
12/24/2009 1:19am,
I love this type of propaganda.
Especially as it willfully ignores human sacrifices that have occurred in America, in the name of God, namely witch burnings.
Methinks karateman should be quiet, or research more.
As far as I am aware, the Salem witch trials were events largely driven by Christian stigma towards witchcraft. These executions were not sacrifices to God, and I feel to say they are is a flagrant lie.
karateman911
12/24/2009 1:26am,
As far as I am aware, the Salem witch trials were events largely driven by Christian stigma towards witchcraft. These executions were not sacrifices to God, and I feel to say they are is a flagrant lie.
Thank you.
And to those who disagree to what I said--look at the liberty bell.
Tyrsmann
12/24/2009 1:36am,
'Odinist' is often codeword for 'cultural essentialist/white supremacist/reactionary.
My own experience with individual members of the OR is that their politics varied. But with the context of American Asatru it does seem that those who identify as Odinist are often of the Nazitru bent.
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