hey guys...

training for these past almost 2 years, i'm pretty sure has changed how i view physical altercation. i don't see the point much, unless i find a valid reason. my question here is because i see different people have different breaking points. to tell the truth, all you have to do to make me get physical is make me angry enough. however, making me angry is not an easy ordeal.

for instance, at the slightest chance, my sister turns into a road raging monster because a car waited half a second before going forward at a green light. traffic idiocy annoys me, but doesn't really piss me off. just this weekend i had a guy pullover and yell something to the extent of me being a cocksucker because he didn't like something i did (was a bit in the way i'll admit, about to turn and got blocked by a car, and the light changed, so a bit more to the left than i should have been). i just kept looking at him very confused. i think it's sad that something like that pisses him off so much he goes into a slew of profanity and has an angry red face over it.

another example, one of the more advanced guys at my gym, who's also small as hell (i'm talking about 5'4", but sick jits) is a super calm guy. i feel a bit of little man syndrome in him though. he elbowed a guy once for cutting in line to the bathroom at a club. the guy just blatantly cut in, and he asked him twice to step back, or they'd have a problem. punched him in the gut, and elbowed him in the face, security came in, bla bla...

i don't know, in that situation, while an asshole getting in line in front of me is a **** deal, i don't know if it would be worth it. if i'm at a club, having a good time, chilling with a girl, i don't know if waiting a minute less to pee is worth getting into a fight over, hauled out by security, perhaps legal recourse, et al. nevertheless, i don't know how i'd react, as no one has ever blatantly tried something like that. but it just doesn't seem worth it right there, not to mention making enemies in the long run.

so i guess what i am asking is, what is your breaking point? when are you brought to the point where physical altercation is inevitable for you?

the only time i can recall recently when i was going to fight over something was when the girl i'm dating told me a guy jumped in front of her, grabbed her by the shoulders and tried to force her to kiss him. by the time i was there, he was leaving, and she didn't tell me what had gone down until he was gone/we had left. i would've probably gone apeshit on that punk. but for that i think i was somewhat justified.

whaddabout you?

This would probably be better in the Armory.

My breaking point is a total display of disrespect or having my life threatened in anyway. Most of my altercations come from driving. For whatever reason I seem to have a target painted on me and my vehicle. I cannot tell you how many times I have been either almost or fully pushed off the road because some jackass does not see me next to them or feel that I will back off if they just shoot in. There has only been one time were I actually pulled over to fight a guy. That ended in both of us doing the monkey posture game. Neither of us actually wanted a physical confrontation, we just needed to blow off some steam while facing each other face to face.

There was another time were I was at a concert with my wife and a couple of friends. These three huge jocks came in and planted themselves right in front of us. I was a bit ticked about it but whatever. As the concert began they slowly kept moving backwards toward us and basically pushing us back. They kept bumping into myself and my wife. I would push them forward when they would do this. This kept up for a few minutes and I just snapped. I took my middle knuckle on my right hand and dug it in to his spine as hard as I could. He instantly spun around and had the nerve to ask me what my problem was. I explained to him what the issue was in a not so polite way and told him if he and his friends had a problem with it lets step outside and take care of it. He basically apologized and stopped running in to us. They were all bigger and taller then myself, but I was so enraged with the display of total disrespect to myself and my wife, that I did not give a ****. They must have seen this because they had no desire to step outside with me to settle the conflict.

I am sure I could have handled this in a better way. But after twenty two years of getting bullied and pushed around that I had finally had enough and was completely willing to step outside. I have had anger issues most of my life and it is really hard for me to control it. I am getting better at it as I get older and a lot of **** I used to do I no longer partake in because it just ain't worth it anymore. I have no desire to go to jail over my stupid anger issues. People still piss me off but I just try and look the other way now. It is hard but I am getting better at it.

It also helps to take a MA to help get rid of a lot of that pent up anger. When you work your ass off in class, you usually do not have the energy to start a fight with some one. That is my anger management class. The best I could ask for.

you see, i don't get the whole monkey posture game. can't do it.

facing someone up-close when we are both angry is a situation of potential danger IMO. even if i just wanna blow of steam, me doing it to him is asking for him to react.

when someone is having a heated conversation and gets in my face, i always ask them to step back a bit. i feel vulnerable in this position, because they can try to headbutt or punch me at any time. basically, if we're pissed at eachother, and you yell at me and come in close, i'm probably reacting physically, more out of caution than anger.

I hate it when people look at me funny.

What are you looking at? I keeeeeeeeel you man! I freeeking keeeeeeel you!

Who's the man now huh? Not so funny now is it? Who's the freeeeeking maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn?!?!?!?

Verbal abuse bs is a pretty lame excuse for a fight.

what are you guys. . .twelve?

the only situation(s) I can see fighting is:
1 - a physical threat to family present
2 - personal safety

other than that, what's the point?

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Verbal abuse bs is a pretty lame excuse for a fight.

what are you guys. . .twelve?

the only situation(s) I can see fighting is:
1 - a physical threat to family present
2 - personal safety

other than that, what's the point?

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You looking at me funny Meeks?!?!!?

j/k you really shouldn't take my last post seriously.

You looking at me funny Meeks?!?!!?
No, I wasn't. . .it's just that you look funny! :XXjester:


j/k you really shouldn't take my last post seriously.
I wasn't. But, the op, and two other poster did indicate that.

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my post indicates i'd fight over words? :tard:

^^^doh! you gonna take that **** from him?! kick his ass!

No, I wasn't. . .it's just that you look funny! :XXjester:

I know.

It's the source of all this insecurity As well as my propensity for fighting to the death over things like a couple ounces of accidentally spilled beer, or some dude glancing in the general direction of one of my fat hooker "dates"...



...gawd I hate myself.:XXjester:

I have found that eh more you learn about real fighting, the less likely you are to have a fight. (Generally...I have met a few notable exceptions)

Once you seriously study the right way to fight, you learn that it is much easier to LOSE a fight than it is to WIN one. This has made me very cautious.

Furthermore, you don't feel as insecure or threatened, and are thus less likely to react inappropriately to negative stimulus.

Personally, i don't engage in physical confrontation unless provoked physically myself. I DO however, verbally confront individuals who are behaving in a manner that I find threatening or dickish. But that's a philosophical thing for me. Assholes are assholes because meek people let them be assholes. But it takes a lot of confidence to confront an asshole knowing that you can't legally or ethically pound them.

Of course, these are usually the type of people who love a good game of escalante...

I have found that eh more you learn about real fighting, the less likely you are to have a fight. (Generally...I have met a few notable exceptions)

Once you seriously study the right way to fight, you learn that it is much easier to LOSE a fight than it is to WIN one. This has made me very cautious.

Furthermore, you don't feel as insecure or threatened, and are thus less likely to react inappropriately to negative stimulus.

Personally, i don't engage in physical confrontation unless provoked physically myself. I DO however, verbally confront individuals who are behaving in a manner that I find threatening or dickish. But that's a philosophical thing for me. Assholes are assholes because meek people let them be assholes. But it takes a lot of confidence to confront an asshole knowing that you can't legally or ethically pound them.

Of course, these are usually the type of people who love a good game of escalante...

So true.
One of the best post's I've read about this topic.

I typically do what you do as far as verbally confronting people, but it almost always escalates instantly when I do.

I can think of about three times when I've done this and instantly got shoved for my trouble. (I'm 5'6". That must really bother some people who are acting like jackholes - to have a dude my size ask them to stop it.)

In all three instances there was intervention before any hands were thrown (good thing too - I'd have probably gotten stomped each time).

Sooner or later I'm gonna take a punch for doing this, but I don't believe the act of telling someone to stop acting like a jackass should have a height requirement.

I would imagine it would help if you were in the ballpark, though. :lol:

you see, i don't get the whole monkey posture game. can't do it.

facing someone up-close when we are both angry is a situation of potential danger IMO. even if i just wanna blow of steam, me doing it to him is asking for him to react.


Me too.I'm always standing outside striking range in a little sideways stance with one leg on my toes ready to kick his head off if he rushes me.

And I always get rilled up like ten minutes after the conflict and feel down because I didn't beat the **** out of some fucktard who had it coming

Me too.I'm always standing outside striking range in a little sideways stance with one leg on my toes ready to kick his head off if he rushes me.

Dumb.