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Kaith Rustaz
9/22/2009 8:07pm,
Walk into almost any commercial school, do the "Jay n Silent Bob" thing, see how many invite you to sit down and have a drink, and how many ask you to leave. Sorry people think filtering profanity is lame. Next thing you'll hit us for is not having any cool "hot babe" threads either.
BSDaemon
9/22/2009 8:52pm,
Walk into almost any commercial school, do the "Jay n Silent Bob" thing, see how many invite you to sit down and have a drink, and how many ask you to leave. Sorry people think filtering profanity is lame. Next thing you'll hit us for is not having any cool "hot babe" threads either.
Your outright dismissal of the Bullshido community in its entirety, based on some riff-raff in our "Your Martial Arts Suck" forum, or a hot babes thread, or profanity, is a blatant Straw man fallacy.
Like any other community has a spectrum of the value of contributions of each member. Some do not contribute positively, and that is to be expected of any open community. Some contribute negatively due to deep-seeded feelings against our mission statement.
We have had a user who was a suspect "BS Martial artists" that spent large amounts of time posting intentionally inflammatory, offensive and rude diatribes against other members of our site.
Amazingly, we actually got the perpetrator of this offensive activity on our site to step in a ring and fight another user of our forum. Our fighter, despite having a vastly shorter claimed experience, was able to dominate and pound the 'BS martial artist' into submission within about 60 seconds.
This guy still has an account here and regularly signs on to spew hatred in our direction. We don't ban him, his actions here are what stand to be held against him, who are we to squelch his speech because we consider his behavior offensive? We simply wouldn't be able to operate if we had such policies in place.
So don't pass summary judgment over the entire community, and everything that is contained within this domain, just because you can find some examples of immature behavior somewhere on bullshido.net/forums. That's plain ignorance, or if you will: douchebaggery.
Kintanon
9/22/2009 9:09pm,
I'm saying that for any review to be useful, it must be read. If it's not read it's of no use, and not everyone is going to search first. I've dealt with enough real criminal fraud victims who have said the same thing time and time again "If I'd only searched". Problem is, most don't. It's good the information is there. It's better if they are prevented from victimizing again. THAT is the piece that Bullshido misses.
Ahh, the screeching of the misguided.
To you there is no value in what we do unless EVERYONE sees the benefit, that is representative of the entire socialist backpatting agenda at Martial Talk.
To us success is ONE SINGLE PERSON who is not taken in by a fraud. One kid who learns that his non-contact TKD class will not make him a badass before some bigger, meaner kid demonstrates it for him. All it takes is ONE for us to consider it a success.
And we have literally thousands. What do you have?
Ahh, the screeching of the misguided.
To you there is no value in what we do unless EVERYONE sees the benefit, that is representative of the entire socialist backpatting agenda at Martial Talk.
To us success is ONE SINGLE PERSON who is not taken in by a fraud. One kid who learns that his non-contact TKD class will not make him a badass before some bigger, meaner kid demonstrates it for him. All it takes is ONE for us to consider it a success.
And we have literally thousands. What do you have?
What is "hordes of fools that still support frauds and liars even with the Avatar of Righteousness giving them the Mushroom Tattoo of Fallacy on their foreheads with the Cock of Truth?"
What'd I win?
wow..i just waded through the steaming pile of fail posted by Kaith/Keith/Bob.
some basic points: ive read some threads on your site and it made my eyes hurt...
i kept reading and suddenly i went into a trance, i had a vision:
this image came to my mind of a bunch overweight hasbeen or wannabe weekendwarriors who are circlejerking eachother at a martial arts teaparty.
you were there wearing an apron and high heels, serving the tea and chocolate chipped cookies, rubbing people over their heads as the furiously jacked theirselves and their fellow members off.
Your high heels made this clicketee clack sounds while you were running around serving tea and saying:' it's so nice to have you here! do play nice boys! here you are safe, here no-one will hurt your feelings!'
The sounds of 10 000 E-penors being fapped made you happy.
Am i accurate or what?
By the way you got a little something on the corner of your mouth..yeah..little to the left..yes, there.
seriously k-e-bob-aith, just go **** yourself you good for nothing windbag.
Bullshido= freedom of speech Ammerikuh.
Martial talk= socialist banana republic.
bobyclumsyninja
9/23/2009 5:44am,
Walk into almost any commercial school, do the "Jay n Silent Bob" thing, see how many invite you to sit down and have a drink, and how many ask you to leave. Sorry people think filtering profanity is lame.
Filtering profanity is counterproductive, and condescending. Harboring or enabling frauds would be more of a concern.
Why would "we" Jay and Silent Bob a school? We don't have touretts (sp?) or anything. Besides, no one swears in martial arts schools...we all know that.
I don't swear during the kids classes...I can say that much. If it's all adults..my experience is that adults swear....even in *gasp* a gym. In fact, ESPECIALLY in a gym, because like a steam valve, of sorts...swear words allow us to vent frustration in a relatively harmless manner.
Hell, you came on this board swearing, to vent a little. Didn't it feel good? No harm done, beyond undermining your case about what's appropriate online.
What about the posters here who teach martial arts? There are quite a few on BS, and at least one gym owner on here. Are they bad for martial arts? Would it be better if they were respectful con artists, than profane genuine articles?
Please, also, don't resent there being cops, lawyers, gov.-types, trainers, pro/ammy fighters etc on here to help w/ things. It's a testament to the quality of information on this site, that serious people (including those who's careers/lives depend on MA) would post on here.
I have questions about mt.com:
1) are there mt.com sparring meetups? Do the members relationships evolve beyond posting back and forth?
2)MartialTalk requires the posters private info. Does the staff look into the members, to verify claims? If so, do the admins reject people, and does this strike you as funny or ironic?(considering the site rules for posters).
3)Do you know a person by the name of Pops Den? (name that movie)
SonofSpiridonov
9/23/2009 9:13am,
It should be noted that there's plenty of TMA people on this forum as well. They're just not into larping.
Yes i know. I consider myself a traditional martial artist. I meant "those other" traditional martial artists.
Kaith Rustaz
9/23/2009 10:14am,
wow..i just waded through the steaming pile of fail posted by Kaith/Keith/Bob.
some basic points: ive read some threads on your site and it made my eyes hurt...
i kept reading and suddenly i went into a trance, i had a vision:
this image came to my mind of a bunch overweight hasbeen or wannabe weekendwarriors who are circlejerking eachother at a martial arts teaparty.
you were there wearing an apron and high heels, serving the tea and chocolate chipped cookies, rubbing people over their heads as the furiously jacked theirselves and their fellow members off.
Your high heels made this clicketee clack sounds while you were running around serving tea and saying:' it's so nice to have you here! do play nice boys! here you are safe, here no-one will hurt your feelings!'
The sounds of 10 000 E-penors being fapped made you happy.
Am i accurate or what?
By the way you got a little something on the corner of your mouth..yeah..little to the left..yes, there.
seriously k-e-bob-aith, just go **** yourself you good for nothing windbag.
Bullshido= freedom of speech Ammerikuh.
Martial talk= socialist banana republic.
You put way too much thought into that graphic description. I hate to tell you this, but, I'm happily married and so both not your type and not available. But thanks for the laugh. You left out the part where that apron and heels were all I was wearing, but maybe you wanted to keep that part of the fantasy to yourself? :D
Kaith Rustaz
9/23/2009 10:28am,
Please, also, don't resent there being cops, lawyers, gov.-types, trainers, pro/ammy fighters etc on here to help w/ things. It's a testament to the quality of information on this site, that serious people (including those who's careers/lives depend on MA) would post on here.
MT also has fighters, military, gym owners, school owners, law enforcement, government, etc. So it either validates us, or negates your comment.
I have questions about mt.com:
1) are there mt.com sparring meetups? Do the members relationships evolve beyond posting back and forth?
Annual and regional meets. Some are social, some training. No we don't get together and "test" our stuff. Spar? Sure. Used to do alot of that myself. [/quote] 2)MartialTalk requires the posters private info. Does the staff look into the members, to verify claims? If so, do the admins reject people, and does this strike you as funny or ironic?(considering the site rules for posters). [/quote] If there is reason to suspect someone lied about their info, we ask for ID. Those failing to provide it are banned. We reject a dozen people a week at least, and no it doesn't. Still waiting for this big list of all the frauds we give safe harbor to. Anyone? Been hearing this lamer excuse for years, still haven't gotten a list or names. 1 person isn't a list. 1 person who is innocent until convicted isn't "safe harbor". (novel thought, must be those socialistic ideals I hear so much about) Seriously guys and dolls, it's been fun, but yeah, I'll be lurking alot. One must balance work with play y'know.
Psycho Dad
9/23/2009 11:15am,
Still waiting for this big list of all the frauds we give safe harbor to. Anyone? Been hearing this lamer excuse for years, still haven't gotten a list or names. 1 person isn't a list. 1 person who is innocent until convicted isn't "safe harbor". (novel thought, must be those socialistic ideals I hear so much about) Seriously guys and dolls, it's been fun, but yeah, I'll be lurking alot. One must balance work with play y'know.
And still waiting for the reply to would we have been allowed to check the credentials of people on your site prior to yesterday?
Kaith Rustaz
9/23/2009 11:54am,
And still waiting for the reply to would we have been allowed to check the credentials of people on your site prior to yesterday?
I've said it at least 6 times.
YES
ignatzami
9/23/2009 11:59am,
I've said it at least 6 times.
YES
This is a lie. Plain and simple. I had two accounts banned, both for questioning Morton's abilities.
I did not even bother following one of your posters from here back to MT when he ducked out on a friendly spar.
Kaith Rustaz
9/23/2009 12:02pm,
This is a lie. Plain and simple. I had two accounts banned, both for questioning Morton's abilities.
I did not even bother following one of your posters from here back to MT when he ducked out on a friendly spar.
You were deemed a troll. Also, multiple accounts is a clear violation of policy. Or does BSdo allow sock puppetry in investigations?
ignatzami
9/23/2009 12:33pm,
You were deemed a troll. Also, multiple accounts is a clear violation of policy. Or does BSdo allow sock puppetry in investigations?
Deemed a troll? Bullshit, I was banned out of hand for referencing the ongoing investigation here and pointing out that Morton was spouting more bullshit on MT.
As to the sock puppetry claims, it's hard to be a sock puppet with one account at a time.
At the end of the day, your claim that investigative inquiry is allowed is simply, wholly, unending, Grade-A bullshit.
Kaith Rustaz
9/23/2009 12:43pm,
Deemed a troll? Bullshit, I was banned out of hand for referencing the ongoing investigation here and pointing out that Morton was spouting more bullshit on MT.
As to the sock puppetry claims, it's hard to be a sock puppet with one account at a time.
At the end of the day, your claim that investigative inquiry is allowed is simply, wholly, unending, Grade-A bullshit.
*shrug* Whatever. That the only reason you popped in? You made 3 posts total, 2 pointing here which ran afoul of several rules. Your actions were disruptive and you were deemed a troll. You were banned. You reregistered to continue to troll and were again banned. Your -only- intent was to harass Morton, which is a violation of MT policy, and still is. As I have said, you can investigate. You may not harass. Too stupid to get the difference, I care not. *shrug*
BSDaemon
9/23/2009 12:55pm,
Still waiting for this big list of all the frauds we give safe harbor to. Anyone? Been hearing this lamer excuse for years, still haven't gotten a list or names. 1 person isn't a list. 1 person who is innocent until convicted isn't "safe harbor". (novel thought, must be those socialistic ideals I hear so much about) Seriously guys and dolls, it's been fun, but yeah, I'll be lurking alot. One must balance work with play y'know.
In terms of proving that your place provides a safe harbor to a fraud, one only needs to show a single example of such.
If you PM me a list of your member names, or show me how I can see a list of your members names on your site, I would be happy to look at the names on that list and cross reference them with BS investigations.
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