I'm a little confused as to which is better

putting the support foot under the ribcage as seen in the more traditional
Jiu-Jitsu


http://www.dragonsmma.com/images/armbar2.gif
http://www.dragonsmma.com/images/armbar2.gif


or laying it across the body

like in MMA

http://www.championyouth.com/pictures/Tex%20and%20Andy%20armbar.jpg
http://www.championyouth.com/pictures/Tex%20and%20Andy%20armbar.jpg


please discuss

In my opinion the leg over the body seems to give more stead ability

Well thank God you put this in the Basic Technique forum after asking your qualified grappling instructor!

They both work and which one to use is situational rather than a question of absolute superiority. For example, to take the nearside arm from knee-on-belly you'd likely use the former, whereas to do so from the mount you'd almost certainly use the latter.

Well thank God you put this in the Basic Technique forum after asking your qualified grappling instructor!
if you're not going to help be quiet


They both work and which one to use is situational rather than a question of absolute superiority. For example, to take the nearside arm from knee-on-belly you'd likely use the former, whereas to do so from the mount you'd almost certainly use the latter.
thank you for helping

if you're not going to help be quiet




He was just letting you know, in traditional awesome Bullshido manner, that you posted in the wrong section.

You should thank him...

He was just letting you know, in traditional awesome Bullshido manner, that you posted in the wrong section.

You should thank him...
lol i forgot a kick in the nuts was Bullshido way of saying "your doing it wrong" =P

lol i forgot a kick in the nuts was Bullshido way of saying "your doing it wrong" =P

Welcome to bullshido.

mhm, wrong section. and i'm sure you could find a 100 page thread on this somewhere if you did a search as well.

do you actually train any grappling in the first place or are you learning off youtube videos with your mates?

to answer the question:

the reason you'd use one or the other has nothing to do with the fact that it's MMA, BJJ, judo, sambo or whatever. as pointy said, it's a matter of position - where you started in the first place. you're just choosing the best technique for the situation.

the first one can be easier to escape however, and i'll often do something like grab the nearest leg for better control.

lol i forgot a kick in the nuts was Bullshido way of saying "your doing it wrong" =P

That is why I always wear a cup while posting, a hit to the nuts is an expected byproduct of training/posting.

Don't do what the moron in the second picture is doing with his arms.

Don't do what the moron in the second picture is doing with his arms.

You're of the "just fucking grab the arm" school of thought? I've been partial to the "hug and squeeze it and maybe grab my own collar" ryu of armbars.

I say, Sup wrist? And then I proceed to monkey grip it. I also prefer the first one, foot under the ribs. It helps me stretch the arm, which makes it more uncomfortable, and I can squeeze my knees tighter. The first one offers more control, though.

imho if they can't escape, can't twist their elbow or body and you've got leverage, you're doing it right (as far as the grip goes).

I also prefer the first one, foot under the ribs.

so if you ended up in the second one, you'd consider transitioning to the first?

imho if they can't escape, can't twist their elbow or body and you've got leverage, you're doing it right.


Psh, what do you know? You're just a purple belt!

(note: sarcasm)




so if you ended up in the second one, you'd consider transitioning to the first?


Hell no! Lol, But most of my armbars tend to be from side control or near side Knee on belly

You're of the "just fucking grab the arm" school of thought? I've been partial to the "hug and squeeze it and maybe grab my own collar" ryu of armbars.

The people that've taught me thus far are, anyway. It might be different if he actually had a collar.