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DARPAChief
5/13/2009 1:57am,
For anyone interested in words:

Japanese has undergone a number of romanizations and these romanizations have endured several revisions. The revised Hepburn system is based on English phonology and is what one will usually encounter in English; under this system 柔術 is written as jūjutsu. Nevertheless there are still relics of past systems that linger (Godzilla comes to mind, today we'd write Gojira).

I am not familiar with the history of jūjutsu's romanization but I do know that jūjitsu is not the same word as jūjutsu. Jūjitsu (充実) is defined by the WWWJDIC as being either (1) fullness; completion; perfection; substantiality; enrichment; (2) replenishment; repletion; (P).

TheLordHumungus
5/13/2009 2:23am,
You guys are putting way too much effort into this. Remember: Minimum effort, maximum efficiency.

DARPAChief
5/13/2009 2:28am,
Milord needn't worry, I'm a Japanese language major. Such are the dregs of my mind.

Tom Kagan
5/13/2009 7:54am,
The WWW JDic does not define what is and is not english... except to a sinophile.

Mtripp
5/13/2009 11:49am,
Actually I remember a Famous Monsters of Filmland issue from a whole lotta years ago, that made the point about Godzilla and spelled it both ways.

Bigger tragedy is that the first movie was really a wonderful metaphor about the horror of atomic weapons... that was lost by the time we got to "Godzilla vs The Smog Monster."

Phrost
5/13/2009 11:50am,
I'm going to beat each and every one of you bickering earnestly about the spelling with a bat covered in kanji.

DARPAChief
5/13/2009 1:49pm,
The WWW JDic does not define what is and is not english... except to a sinophile.

Evidently neither does Mr. Kagan: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sinophile

But we aren't in disagreement about the WWWJDIC's status as an English authority. I dropped the name for anyone interested to have an easy way to verify what I said about the Japanese language. I also mentioned Godzilla as an example of archaic romanization which persists due to an early borrowing into English; in those cases, as seems to be the case with Jiu Jitsu, the word is ingrained enough such that depending on the context it may be more appropriate to use the archaic version (e.g. when writing about BJJ, which favours that spelling).

Nevertheless there will be people wondering exactly how to go about saying weird foreign words and for them the revised hepburn is the most English-friendly. I think whether or not there are invididuals interested in that aspect no one is done wrong by knowing more about it.

Tattoofu
5/14/2009 2:27pm,
Oh, this is a linguistics forum. I mistakenly thought it was about Jigoro Kano and his badassery. My mistake.

DARPAChief
5/14/2009 2:33pm,
No one is stopping you.

johnbarnes
5/15/2009 3:24pm,
That's the prewar British spelling of Tokio. Your source wasn't wrong, just old.

The depth of Kano's influence, not just in martial arts but in Japanese educational theory, is one of those subjects worthy of a 1000 page book.

Do people get extra badass points for being really good at something totally not badass? Like Musashi being a brilliant painter, Sanetomo a scientist, or Cyrano being an expert poet and literary critic, or T.E. Lawrence being ... damn, was there anything he wasn't good at? Because if there are "Well-rounded Badass points" that's probably another million you could give Kano.

Phrost
5/15/2009 4:21pm,
Don't take the joke about the spelling too seriously. For Kimura's sake, half the article revolved around awarding "Badass Points".

DARPAChief
5/15/2009 4:21pm,
Another million? That's...over nine thousand!

Tonuzaba
5/20/2009 2:13am,
Great article.

100xobm
5/20/2009 8:50pm,
Don't take the joke about the spelling too seriously. For Kimura's sake, half the article revolved around awarding "Badass Points".

It reminded me of experience points a little. Which seemed a little ironic. Good article, just kinda wondered if you were going to mention 'mana' somewhere.

Also, to the spelling bee warriors, this is very unbadass. You all lose some BP and all of your mana.

Go Osoto a tiger for Kano's sake.

johnbarnes
5/20/2009 9:18pm,
It reminded me of experience points a little. Which seemed a little ironic. Good article, just kinda wondered if you were going to mention 'mana' somewhere.

Also, to the spelling bee warriors, this is very unbadass. You all lose some BP and all of your mana.

Go Osoto a tiger for Kano's sake.

But if someone is already a badass, and spells extremely well, does that make them more or less of a badass?

See, clearly being a brilliant scientific mind like many superheros just makes them more badass. Breaker Morant's fairly good poetry and beautiful singing voice made him more badass. A surprising number of fictional detectives cook well. The Saint and the Shadow were both terrific dancers.

Knitting, writing children's picture books, interior decorating, on the other hand, probably not.

So ... if a guy holds championships in a couple kinds of serious fighting and in the national spelling bee, is he an upclassed or a downclassed badass?

100xobm
5/20/2009 10:44pm,
But if someone is already a badass, and spells extremely well, does that make them more or less of a badass?

See, clearly being a brilliant scientific mind like many superheros just makes them more badass. Breaker Morant's fairly good poetry and beautiful singing voice made him more badass. A surprising number of fictional detectives cook well. The Saint and the Shadow were both terrific dancers.

Knitting, writing children's picture books, interior decorating, on the other hand, probably not.

So ... if a guy holds championships in a couple kinds of serious fighting and in the national spelling bee, is he an upclassed or a downclassed badass?

Good points, I believe a downclassification of badassitude will occur.
Let me elaborate
Skills in life can be distilled into three categories

That which shall get ye laid
Cooking
Dancing
Sometimes Poetry
A Big Brain (especially combined with spidey string or some kind of green lantern)

That which ye need to survive
Driving
Judo (Judo can get ye laid if you train enough to get muscly)

That which shall not get ye laid
Interior Decorating
Knitting
Sewing
Spelling

This shows that spelling will not get ye laid unless you make allowances for extreme outliers like the elderly population, or emotional cripples like educators.

Not really sure why I chose to use 'ye' there...