This is what I found browsing through the BB archives during the time right after UFC 1:

http://books.google.com/books?id=FtADAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0_0#PPA24,M1


Yes, as anyone familiar with BB would have predicted, all the bullshidokas got together and took a bunch of pictures demonstrating choregraphed techniques as a rebuttal against the first UFC. Of course, they started getting desperate when the UFC added groin strikes and Royce didn't cease whooping the asses of every other TMA guy out there. So they came up with this:


http://books.google.com/books?id=xM8DAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0_0#PPA60,M1

It's an archive of LULZ.

Best quote from the first link, Francis Fong explaining how trying to compare Gracie Jujutsu (don't you hate when they spell it like that?) to Wing Chun is a waste of time: "It's like saying which is more effective, the knife or the gun? It depends on the situation and how the person uses it."

Or in other words, doing wing chun is like bringing a knife to a gun fight?

Best quote from the first link, Francis Fong explaining how trying to compare Gracie Jujutsu (don't you hate when they spell it like that?) to Wing Chun is a waste of time: "It's like saying which is more effective, the knife or the gun? It depends on the situation and how the person uses it."

Or in other words, doing wing chun is like bringing a knife to a gun fight?

Lol, except to anyone who knows jack **** about Japanese, its spelled ju jutsu. the jIu jItsu was added because people suck at translating.

However, i hate how everyone is a stylist.

I love that that was published after UFC I when those techniques proved to be completely ineffective.

Honestly, its not a bad read. The shotokan and tkd guy, and to some extent, the _ing _un guy are pretty much saying if they got to the ground, they'd be fucked, and its the fighter, not teh style who wins.

Dillman is a nut, though.

Reverse punch to the top of the skull as a response to a double leg...

It only seems illogical because the magazine, to save money, omitted pics #4 & 5 from the sequence where it shows how he's practiced makiwara for 2 hours a day for the last 20 years and breaks huge blocks of ice with his dong. Karate wins again.

How to Defend Against a Gracie Attack...The answer is SPRAWL? That's like a "How to Defend Against a Mike Tyson Attack" article having the answer be "Block".

You bjj guys and your sprawls. Sure it could work, but countering a double leg with a flying axe kick = chicks for life. Risk vs. reward, risk vs. reward.

How to Defend Against a Gracie Attack...The answer is SPRAWL? That's like a "How to Defend Against a Mike Tyson Attack" article having the answer be "Block".


At least it's a good start.

There's a far better interview with gene lebell in the first one after the shitty article

At least it's a good start.
Too bad they weren't demonstrating against someone doing a decent double leg.

the jIu jItsu was added because people suck at translating.

It's a phrenetic translation. I always get mixed up between Hepburn and the other weird romanisation...but in any case, they're just two different translations. So that's a bit like saying that all Americans suck at speaking because their accent differs from the original and pure English one.

Lol, except to anyone who knows jack **** about Japanese, its spelled ju jutsu. the jIu jItsu was added because people suck at translating.

Lol, I would think that anyone who knew jack **** about japanese would know that back when Gracie Jiu Jitsu got its name there WAS no one romanized way of spelling jujutsu/jujitsu/jiu jitsu, and the Brazilian version was as valid as any other.

Maybe I read to much into things, but when I see articles like that which refer to it as Gracie/Brazilian Jujutsu or the like, I get the impression that the choice to disregard how gjj/bjj people spell their own art actually has implications.

I love that they consulted Dillman. I can't believe there was a time when he was given credibility.

Honestly, its not a bad read. The shotokan and tkd guy, and to some extent, the _ing _un guy are pretty much saying if they got to the ground, they'd be fucked, and its the fighter, not teh style who wins. The karate guy, Tom Muzila, also seemed to have the good sense to suggest that you'd actually have to practice against grappling techniques, and that he's "sure that even some of the Gracies' basic guys could very easily take out a Shotokan guy who is untrained on the ground".

This guy, Muzila, is one of the old hardasses of SKA, known for some pretty (http://www.shotokai.com/ingles/interviews/muzila1.html) extreme (http://www.shotokai.com/ingles/interviews/muzila2.html) practice sessions. (I expect a fair amount of truth, through those links, though heaven knows if it's all true.) I've never met the man in question, though back when I practiced karate, all the senior blackbelts knew him. It's kind of consoling, somehow, to hear that there's some common sense in my karate lineage, too...