Hi guys,

I've been using this for my post workout recovery for some time now:

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/formulas/mp-formulas/recovery-xs-(1800g)/

and it seems to be really helping.

One of the PT's who works at our gym has started traing Jits with us and was speaking to my training partner about this formula. He said that having Carbs and Protein together was a bad idea as it inhibits your body's ability to take up Protein and, unfortunately I wasn't there to hear this first hand, said it was something to do with "binding".

I always thought that you should have your Protein and Carbs together but the guy is very knowledgable on other subjects and highly qualified so I didn't want to just dismiss what he said.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Binding? Psssht.

It doesn't make any sense, if you ask me.

The carbs, waxy maize, glutamine and protein all in one drink makes that stuff one hell of a combo.

Think about all the weight gainer products out there that bodybuilders and fighters use t gain weight, all with at least 40-100g of carbs for servng, I dunno...sounds like that PT doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He might, but in all my years I've never heard of anything like that.

I've heard theres a ratio of about 4 to 1 protein to carbs which is the best for PWO, and also that carbs will slow down the ingestion of protein.... not sure whether this is true though!

1) The PT's an idiot.
2) My personal preference is for chocolate milk + whey protein + creatine + maybe a tablet of Vitamin C on the side, but that powder looks to be all right too, especially if you (like me right now) have nowhere to keep chocolate milk refrigerated during a workout.

Adding to the chorus: everything I've read says get some high-GI carbs within an hour after the workout to facilitate storage of muscle cell glycogen, plus some fast-digesting protein & aminos for muscle repair/growth. I usually drink a smoothie with whey protein, bananas (+ other fruit by season), glutamine & BCAA for this purpose.

i blend a smoothie of protien enriched slim fast and a bananna, maybe throw in a scoop of creatine.

yup, chocolate milk and a bananna. Potassium and fat and sugar. Anything more complicated and my brain explodes.

Same here, chocolate milk and a couple bananas, maybe a Tiger Milk bar or such if I feel like I really need some extra protein. Every night after I train I grab that on the way back, usually 20-30 minutes post workout. Cost is usually 2-3 bucks total.

Hi guys,

I've been using this for my post workout recovery for some time now:

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/formulas/mp-formulas/recovery-xs-(1800g)/

and it seems to be really helping.

One of the PT's who works at our gym has started traing Jits with us and was speaking to my training partner about this formula. He said that having Carbs and Protein together was a bad idea as it inhibits your body's ability to take up Protein and, unfortunately I wasn't there to hear this first hand, said it was something to do with "binding".

I always thought that you should have your Protein and Carbs together but the guy is very knowledgable on other subjects and highly qualified so I didn't want to just dismiss what he said.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

That's crazy talk. I deally you want to eat/drink I high glycemic crabohydrate and clean, readily absorbable protein as close to the end of your workout as possible. After a workout your body is full of cortisol (stress hormone) and your muscles' energy stores are depleted. Ingesting the high glycemic carbs causes an insulin spike, which causes your body to push nutrients back into your depleted muscles. If you ingest protein at the same time, the protein gets "spet up" by the insulin and pushed into your muscles where they can use it to immediately begin repair. Also, the combination of the cortisol and the insulin trigger a release of growth hormone, which speeds the repair/growth of muscle. Ideally you should have no fat with your post workout meal, because that slows the absorption of protein and carbs, causing you to miss the ideal post-workout hormonal window.

At least that's how I understand it, but I'm no biochemist. This is a decent article on post workout nutrition... http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/windowofopportunity.htm

http://www.trueprotein.com is a pretty interesting site that you can use to custom make blends of different types of proteins, carbs etc. So if anyone is really interested in it that is a pretty good site for custom products.

If you want the convenience of something pre-mixed to your specifications rather than mixing various things together it is a pretty nice site.

Ok cool, so he's talking **** then.

I thought as much but didn't really want to say it to him without at least looking into it a bit.

Is cottage cheese a good post workout meal?

Being casein, it takes a while to digest. This means it's not a great substitute for a post-workout recovery drink, but could serve as a slow protein for the hours after working out.

^ Thanks.

So if you dont have a whey powder/supplement, whats the best food to get whey protein from?

Milk protein is 20% whey. The other 80% is casein.