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Phrost
8/22/2008 8:34am,
No, this is not about the roided-looking reality and former WWE star, the country of China is a douchebag.


http://www.bullshido.net/images/lol-olympics.jpg

A picture is supposedly worth 1000 words, and that's great because it's 8 in the morning and I'm kind of lazy. But anyone who's watched the olympics and doesn't have severe head trauma, or isn't a raging sinophile/Communist/Nerdy, Pot-Bellied, Kung Fu "cowboy" can see that Chinese Olympian He Kexin is only a few years out of diapers. Hell, I have cigars older than her in my humidor.

It's obviously not her fault though. Aside from being brainwashed with state propaganda and bullshit Confucianistic subserviance, girl's gotta eat. That, and I'm sure she'd like to avoid having her house as a new stop on the Chinese Mobile Execution Bus (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35642) route, and ending up as a dissected cadaver on the Bodies Revealed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/apr/02/china.arts) traveling exhibit. (Which, ironically, my daughter is seeing this weekend.)

The Chinese government faked her passport, and no doubt others, to qualify for the minimum age of 16. And when someone discovered evidence of this on an official government site, it mysteriously disappears.

And then there's the whole issue of faking the opening ceremony, the cover-up of the ridiculous levels of smog, and (unrelated to the Olympics) the phenomenon of parents hocking their kids to the highest bidder due to the tyrannical one-child policy.

What does this have to do with the Martial Arts? Obviously China is supposed to be the birthplace of them, although I dispute that as people have been figuring out ways to hurt each other ever since Og grabbed a log to club Ugg over a tasty bird egg they found outside their cave.

Beyond this, there's still the pervasive, ridiculous notion that China is some sort of wonderland of wise masters and idiots jumping from tree to tree in silk robes. This article is just a healthy injection of reality into the asses of people who think that way.

China, you're a douchebag.

Here's the discussion thread on Sociocide, our Off Topic forum. (http://www.sociocide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50606)

sochin101
8/22/2008 8:51am,
I've just watched our -80kg TKD dude get shafted out of a bronze medal because he had the misfortune to be fighting a Chinese fighter.
Olympic TKD is gay. Cheating at it is super-gay.

Scott Larson
8/22/2008 9:54am,
This is a good reality check for a lot of people. Just like any country, there are good and bad things.

China is a lot like America, except America knows how to hide their bad things better.

WorldWarCheese
8/22/2008 10:44am,
FREE TIBET! :p

KO'd N DOA
8/22/2008 11:11am,
China is a myth. It is all about myth, obscuring everything in fantasy is effective of keeping everyone in place, and even guessing as to where that place may be.

The douchbagery comes from lying about the myth and telling eveyone that it is real.

1 Billion People? Seriously, did anyone count? No, so there is not.
Chinese Taipai - TAIWAN
Paper, printing, ink, fireworks - Sure ya did.

Making someone emperor then forbidding him from leaving his city to take advantage of his supposed power. China is the BS of old.

It is Fake
8/22/2008 11:15am,
America knows how to hide their bad things better.
Hahaha know they really don't.

UpaLumpa
8/22/2008 11:46am,
This is pathetic and sour grapes.
The girls may well be younger (how the **** can you really tell, they're Asian gymnasts; they'll never look older than 12) but that harms then, not the Olympics. The American should have won silver regardless. Who got shafted there was the bronze medalist who should have swapped positions with the gold winner. That judging fault goes to non-chinese by the way.

As for a single girl lip-syncing, so fucking what? Have you ever been to a sporting event? As often as not there is lip syncing going on. Oh my god, the integrity of the superbowl has been compromised.


The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter, China may do some fucked up **** but these olympics weren't them (except from the standpoint of spending money that could have fed starving citizens, but no one ever cares about that).

Phrost
8/22/2008 12:17pm,
It's not really sour grapes. The reason for the 16 year old age limit is there because pre-pubescent female bodies have a different center of gravity which gives them an advantage. It's also an attempt to prevent the machine-like exploitation of children who are put into what are little more than sport internment camps to serve as propaganda tools for their government.

TheRuss
8/22/2008 12:19pm,
This is pathetic and sour grapes.
The girls may well be younger (how the **** can you really tell, they're Asian gymnasts; they'll never look older than 12) but that harms then, not the Olympics.

If the Olympics didn't have a rule against exploiting prepubescent children by forcing them into elite athletic competition for the glory of their nation-state, this thread might very well be called "Douchebag of the Month - August 08: The Olympics".

Because the Olympics do have a rule against this, and because China flouted said rule (see this (http://strydehax.blogspot.com/) - yes, it's a blog, but it's the blog of the guy who found the smoking gun), it's the Chinese who have earned "Douchebag of the Month" honours.

If China had made a good-faith effort to avoid this, we'd be left with nothing more to criticize them about than mundane things like requiring would-be protesters to obtain permits to protest at the games, then not granting any (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=f89724b8-0d03-49e6-970d-4d85217a20b6) of said permits. But then we wouldn't have a "think of the children" angle.

Fearless Ukemi
8/22/2008 12:27pm,
China may be a douchebag, but they have some god damned impressive weight lifters.

Bahuyuddha
8/22/2008 12:37pm,
The only objection I have to the 14 year old girl gymnast fiasco is that no other country was allowed to enter 14 year old athletes. That, and the fact that the Chinese government participated in the lie.

The smoke-and-mirrors (har har) televising of the opening ceremony and the lip syncing, I couldn't care less about.

TheRuss
8/22/2008 12:46pm,
China may be a douchebag, but they have some god damned impressive weight lifters.

True. Totalitarian states can do some remarkable things in terms of athletic training by virtue of nationalizing it and making participation compulsory. I've been wanting to get my hands on some of the Russian training manuals (like this one (http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?cid=222&m=PD&pid=71)). My theory is something along the lines of:
-They can use coercion as a stick, rather than the carrot-only approach of voluntary sports
-Said stick is invaluable in forcing participation in risky or unpleasant techniques (particularly chemical ones), and would especially be useful for recruiting test subjects as "guinea pigs" for techniques that may later be applied to the elite athletes
Bonus points for the "improved standard of living" thing, but that goes for lots of places, not just totalitarian states.

Bottom line is that they can do - and I'd wager are doing - stuff that would be illegal here, but is state-sanctioned there.

seriousmantid
8/22/2008 12:54pm,
I say who cares what China did . Typical americans allways whining over what is fair or not. The bottom line is who cares. It was the Olympics big deal. I think it was really cool for our athletes to go there and to compete within the ruleset They might not do things by the book but we sure will because we are Americans and we do the right thing no matter what the other side does.

fightin Penguin
8/22/2008 2:09pm,
I say who cares what China did . Typical americans allways whining over what is fair or not. The bottom line is who cares. It was the Olympics big deal. I think it was really cool for our athletes to go there and to compete within the ruleset They might not do things by the book but we sure will because we are Americans and we do the right thing no matter what the other side does.

Well this is a fucked up Patriotic post...

UpaLumpa
8/22/2008 2:13pm,
Question:
Would the training of these poor exploited prepubescent girls be any different at 10 if they weren't allowed to compete at 16 than it is if they compete at 14?

Are these girls subjected to worse training than the american girls were at the same age?


The answer for no is both so quit with the moralizing. Fucking outlaw gymnastics, fine but don't bitch about what is common everywhere.

indy007
8/22/2008 2:33pm,
This is pathetic and sour grapes.
As for a single girl lip-syncing, so fucking what? Have you ever been to a sporting event? As often as not there is lip syncing going on. Oh my god, the integrity of the superbowl has been compromised.

It's not the lip syncing. It's the fact they told a 7 year old girl she was so ugly, that she shamed China, after winning a national talent competition to appear in the event. That's a douche bag move. Bringing out 57 minority children to gather around the flag, who were not actually minorities at all, but majority Chinese kids painted and dressed up to look the part, is also a douche bag move.