get a good grounding in judo if you want to learn judo.

I'll get right on that, but first I have to make sure I'm on that first.

Why would doing more than one style at a time hinder your progress? Unless their schedules conflict and you have to choose one over the other for training time, there's no reason it should hinder your progress.

The only thing that might be causing some friction between judo and karate is the way sweeps are tought, such as o soto gari. Judo is more the 'sweeping' motion, karate tends to emphasize a kicking motion. Personally I found that distinction not an insurmountable problem.



That's like saying you can't learn history and math at the same time.
I can testify that's not the case. :qright7:

I found judo a 'sine qua non' for any serious martial artist. Loved to do it, especially randori ne waza.

Why would doing more than one style at a time hinder your progress? Unless their schedules conflict and you have to choose one over the other for training time, there's no reason it should hinder your progress. That's like saying you can't learn history and math at the same time.

It only applies to beginners who are taking their first step into MA. Usually leads to too much information for a new student to handle:new_blowi

It only applies to beginners who are taking their first step into MA. Usually leads to too much information for a new student to handle:new_blowi

I would like to see some proof of this.

Logically, the only way I can see this happening is if one art says "punch like this" and the other art says "no, you punch like this". If that's the case, then yeah, it might hinder your progress since your instructors are telling you different ways of doing the same thing (with one of them probably being wrong).

But, since this is about learning Judo + striking art, this should never come up. Like I said, no one says "You can't learn history and math at the same time! Your mind might get confused!"

It only applies to beginners who are taking their first step into MA. Usually leads to too much information for a new student to handle:new_blowi

Barring time constrains and perhaps a limited ability to recover from physical rigors, why would a beginner not be able to, say, take Judo 2-3 times a week and boxing/MT/any form of alive karate/kickboxing once or twice a week?

It is granted that a person could learn faster by devoting a greater amount of time on one art, but they way things are, it is not uncommon for many Judo places to train only 2-3 times a week, and many MT/boxing/kickboxing/karate places having classes twice a week.

As RaiNnyX4, it's only a concern if there are scheduling conflicts (and I'd add that physical stress may also be a factor). BUT, there is nothing inherent in the arts or on a beginner that would stop the learning of two arts at the same time (assuming the logistics of this endeavor are reasonable.

Of course, if a person tries to train Judo 4-5 times a week, 2 hours in each training session, and on top of that add something else, of course there would be learning problems.

But that's not a problem related to the simultaneous training of these arts, nor on the person being a beginner. It would be a matter of logistical stupidity that is more a personality attribute than an attribute of the person being a beginner.

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Off-topic, but this bothers my OCD tendencies.

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Yes.

Most people here will recomend Muay Thai, Boxing, Kyokushin or maybe San Da.

San Da would definitely be a nice combo with Judo. Especially no-gi Judo if you can get it. Kyokushinkai would be more Japanesey.

Check out DWMMA in Peabody: 978-531-8511

They have boxing, muay Thai and Joe Lewis' American kickboxing. I can't vouch for the quality of instruction, but it's worth taking a look at.

Can you get into Boston? If so I can make some actual recommendations.

When questioning if it's practical to take judo and a striking art together, I think you have to ask yourself, "Practical for what?"

I think you have to consider the surface as part of judo's practicality. An ippon onto the sidewalk can be a knockout by itself. Add some good kickboxing to that and you have a winning combination.

An ippon onto sprung, padded canvas is just a takedown and you'd better have some BJJ to follow up with.

Pure gripfighting has it's obvious drawbacks, especially when there's no agreement that strikes are out-of-bounds. But for takedown defense and throws you can't beat judo. Just be careful about giving up your back.

An ippon onto the sidewalk can be a knockout by itself.
What judoka have never told anyone is that they truely are the real deadly, considering they focus on two of the only techniques that can kill someone the first time: throwing fools on their head, and choking. It just so happens that with a bit of modification, both are practicable every single day.

Honestly, the big three-and-a-half kicking arts (Kyokushin, Muay Thai, Sanda and Savate kinda counts) are wonderful and all, but I'd advise straight up boxing. You'll be more than competent in defending the poorly executed punches you'll find in SD situations, and you'll know you can throw a few to the nose/jaw/liver to set up a nice big throw.

Man, I wish there was judo here...

EDIT: I'm not raggin' on Savate at all, it's probably my favorite of all the alive arts to watch. It's just rare, and really, a bit more constrained than the others (only one to ban kicking with the shin).

EDIT: I'm not raggin' on Savate at all, it's probably my favorite of all the alive arts to watch. It's just rare, and really, a bit more constrained than the others (only one to ban kicking with the shin).

You forgot the other half a kicking sport: Full Contact Karate aka Kickboxing.

Ah, yes, I forgot Muay Thai Lite. I'll change it to three-and-two-halfs from now on.