Sorry, I want to train because I do anti-racist work and if a nazi tries to kicks my ass, I want to be able to actually defend myself. I also want to be able to protect myself and my family in the rare (but not impossible) instance that something happens on t3h 5t|233t. Sometimes, I feel like I might even want to fight in amateur MMA or crapplign tournaments, because it could be fun. I just need to get my ass in shape.

I can not get any of the above out of aikido, AFAICT. Including getting my ass in shape.

And if I want to learn softness, I can do Systema which has it's flaws but far less than aikido.

Listen, if aikido is good in some way(s) or in a holistic and complete way for some people, more power to them. I'm just saying I can't understand it myself.

What the hell is anti-racist work? If your going to fight some Nazi's play COD 2 and take notes.

I've already ended every CoD and MoH, Castle Wofenstein, and just about any game that allows the killing of nazis in one way or another that has been released for PS2. :)

It's a fun distraction from the real ones.

I've already ended every CoD and MoH, Castle Wofenstein, and just about any game that allows the killing of nazis in one way or another that has been released for PS2. :)

It's a fun distraction from the real ones.

What exactly do you do to fight off nazis?

You know what'd be a better thread then Krav Maga vs Aikido.

Scientology vs. Aikido

What exactly do you do to fight off nazis?



http://aratoronto.org

http://aratoronto.org

Its interesting you guys picked Nazi colors for your organization.

You guys harass them at public meetings and it sounds like you start fights with them, its kind of hypocritical. You should provide them with electric coolaid (LSD laced) at their gatherings, maybe they will have a spiritual awakening and realise they are douche nozzles.

Its interesting you guys picked Nazi colors for your organization.

What are "nazi colours"? Our organization doesn't have any official colours anyways.


You guys harass them at public meetings and it sounds like you start fights with them, its kind of hypocritical. .
What's "hypocritical" about it?

We don't start fights, we finish them. ;)

What's "hypocritical" about it?

We don't start fights, we finish them. ;)You should tolerate everyone regardless of race or creed!

...except for those people who are intolerant of others. We can't tolerate intolerance.

...except if our the intolerance is directed toward other people who are intolerant. That we can tolerate.

--Joe

http://aratoronto.org


You guys claim to be anti-racist, yet you praise a guy on your site that you clearly state was a member of the Black Panthers, one of the most racist groups around.


Hmm.

You guys claim to be anti-racist, yet you praise a guy on your site that you clearly state was a member of the Black Panthers, one of the most racist groups around.

Hmm.Oh, my silly fellow Joe... Don't you know that black people can't be racist?

--Joe

You guys claim to be anti-racist, yet you praise a guy on your site that you clearly state was a member of the Black Panthers, one of the most racist groups around.


Hmm.
the idea that the original Black Panthers were racist is absolutely ridiculous. It's like trying to say Aikido could be BJJ if they simply changed into the same gis.

:deadhorse

the idea that the original Black Panthers were racist is absolutely ridiculous. It's like trying to say Aikido could be BJJ if they simply changed into the same gis.

:deadhorseYou're kidding, right? You realize that the founders of the Black Panthers are known to have belonged to violent Black-power movements prior to its creation, right? You know that the organization was founded on a principle of redistribution of wealth based on racial factors, right?

How can you possibly argue that the Black Panthers were not a racist organization?

--Joe

You're obviously confusing violence with "racism" and nationality with race; in any case no I'm not kidding but I'm not going to get in to this on here, I just finished an long argument with some conservative kid over e-mail and a comrade and I don't feel like doing this on a martial arts board now. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

...How can you possibly argue that the Black Panthers were not a racist organization?
Maybe because:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_F2ucHG6TGL4/SAwQnGfGIiI/AAAAAAAAANI/BNoZB-IZbr0/s400/13+birthday+cake.JPG/2

You're obviously confusing violence with "racism" and nationality with race; in any case no I'm not kidding but I'm not going to get in to this on here, I just finished an long argument with some conservative kid over e-mail and a comrade and I don't feel like doing this on a martial arts board now. So we'll have to agree to disagree.Not at all. Violence committed with racial motivation is racist. A sense of "Nationalism" based on race rather than one's actual nation of origin is racist. I think you're the one who is confused, here.

--Joe

the idea that the original Black Panthers were racist is absolutely ridiculous. It's like trying to say Aikido could be BJJ if they simply changed into the same gis.

:deadhorse



The term "Black Power" in and of itself is racist.

If I went around everywhere shouting "White Power" you would have my face on your little website there, but you seem to be ok with guys shouting "Black Power".


Seriously.

If you can't tell the difference by using simple economics, then forget it.

Any case, Black nation doesn't have to be based on a nation that was created by Europeans to be a "real" nationality.

African-American can be the nationality, for example. The geography merely has to be drawn to add another characteristic to the nation.

Like I said, I'm done with this, I just went through something very similar with 2 other people.