I'll give you a little back-story, then I'll get to the point.
I've got a friend who's got a friend. Aside from being an arrogant, humourless blowhard who can't talk about anything other than health and fitness, this friend of my friend talks a lot of wacky stuff about Astral Travel, Herbal Medicine and whatnot. Of course, the first friend takes him at his word (not knowing any better) and parrots it back to me. Today, he unloaded this little gem on me...
"If you're doing a lot of training, whacking off is bad for you, because it depletes your testosterone levels!"
I'm no expert on the subject, but as somebody who trains pretty regularly and beats his dick like it owes him money, I think I'm doing okay. I tried to explain to him that if you don't beat off, the spooge comes out anyway in the form of a wet dream. I also explained that when you whack it, you're basically ordering more jizz to be produced, so it kind of tops up anyway.
Don't ask me why, but I'm kind of curious about the whole deal. If anybody with more medical knowledge or experience in the area could shine a little light, that'd be just super. In the meantime, I think I'm going to have to find some new friends.
ETA: I swear this isn't a troll job. You know how it is when you've got a burning question and your Google-Fu doesn't turn up squat.
Believe me, you have no idea how awkward it was for me just starting this thread. It's not something I'd be comfortable picking my GP's brains about either. I think I'm in the right here, but I'd like to know one way or the other.
If we lump 'whacking off' under the umbrella of 'busting a nut', wouldn't it follow that male porn stars (we won't include Ron Jeremy - who is, by the way, the **** - for the purposes of this discussion) should be in deplorable shape? If his biography is anything to go by, Arnold Schwartzenegger busted his fair share of nuts in his early bodybuilding days.
As I mentioned before, I'm not trying to troll here. I'm just looking for that all-important confirmation (one way or the other) so that if I'm right, I can go up to that friend-of-a-friend, tell him he's full of **** and say "How be them bananas, bitch?"
Lu Tze
6/06/2008 4:53am,
Lets say hypothetically that your friend is right, would you stop?
Deadmeat
6/06/2008 5:03am,
Sorry, couldn't resist posting the above picture.
In all seriousness, A friend of mine who fights Muay Thai is was instructed by his coach not to "bust a nut" for a week prior to his last fight.
The explanation was actually that the frustration would induce aggression. Testosterone was not mentioned.
Smacks of an old wives tale imo.
sum yung gai
6/06/2008 6:02am,
Lets say hypothetically that your friend is right, would you stop?
**** no! While I'd conceed that I was wrong, I'd learn to live with the fact I'll never be ripped like Tony Jaa. What's the point in living if you can't (in moderation, of course) eat burgers, get drunk, play video games and beat your cock raw to the pictures of Kyra Gracie that show up on this website?
socratic
6/06/2008 6:32am,
Old-timey pugilists and fight-trainers will rant and rave about the effects of sexuality on a male fighter, but honestly I think the 'no sex' rule was probably instituted simply to stop fighters being distracted into having personal lives during their training careers.
DannyMac
6/06/2008 6:54am,
Considering this is coming from back when I thought Muscle & Fitness was a credible source, here's what I remember from one issue.
Basically they said that you shouldn't have sex or masturbate too close to training because it will reduce your testosterone levels, but a normal sex life is fine. In fact they recommended flirting with the hot girl at the counter for a few minutes since it would amp your testosterone slightly before working out.
Now that's M&F, who I consider anymore to be mostly full of ****, but there's probably a little bit of sound logic in there. Considering the amount of actual scientific work that's been put into training regimes, nutrition, and supplementation in recent years it wouldn't surprise me if somebody didn't do a study on this very topic.
My personal opinion is that blue balls will distract you enough from hitting the zone while lifting that all benefits due to slightly increased testosterone levels will be lost due to shitty workouts.
Look for when happah comes into the discussion. All sorts of wonderful insights into why masturbation is bad for you and also how squeezing a book between your butt cheeks is a great exercise.
Eddie Hardon
6/06/2008 8:42am,
Old-timey pugilists and fight-trainers will rant and rave about the effects of sexuality on a male fighter, but honestly I think the 'no sex' rule was probably instituted simply to stop fighters being distracted into having personal lives during their training careers.
You may not be aware of Panana Al Brown the tallest World Bantamweight Champion. Let's just say you did n't dare drop the soap in the Shower.
G-Off
6/06/2008 9:18am,
Sports science did an experiment on the effects of having sex on performance and testosterone levels. Sex actually increases testosterone levels.
Emevas
6/06/2008 2:13pm,
I had sex literally every single day while I was doing 6 weeks of 20 rep squats. I only failed on squats 3 times in those six weeks, and gained 12lbs.
Worrying about how sex affects your training is about as stupid as people that are worried about having the absolute perfect temprature for their post training shower. Usually such chowder heads are too concerned with minute details to realize that their training in general sucks, lacking both intensity and food to make any sort of progress.
sum yung gai
6/06/2008 11:00pm,
I had sex literally every single day while I was doing 6 weeks of 20 rep squats. I only failed on squats 3 times in those six weeks, and gained 12lbs.
Worrying about how sex affects your training is about as stupid as people that are worried about having the absolute perfect temprature for their post training shower. Usually such chowder heads are too concerned with minute details to realize that their training in general sucks, lacking both intensity and food to make any sort of progress.
As you appear to be able to just bicep-curl your way out of an armbar, I think I'm going to take you at your word here. I'm going to have to sit my friend down and tell him that whatever his friend tells him about anything (even if he tells him water is wet), he might want to double-check it.
Emevas
6/07/2008 11:07am,
Umm...how do I appear to be able to bicep-curl my way out of an armbar?