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Teh El Macho
5/23/2008 2:37pm,
I've been using Tactical Nutrition "Explosive Endurance" Formula for over 3 weeks now and I'm pleased with the product. I'd also like to thank Tactical Nutrition for making this product available for review.

At first I was concerned in doing a review on a product billed for explosive endurance because I'm currently not training at all, not even lifting.

To illustrate this, my physical activity in the last two months have been limited to morning jog, some sprints and light lifting every other day. That's about it. But one of the things that convinced me to give it a try was that the product contains a set of B-type vitamins (which I always take anyways). And so, I picked the bottle to give it a try.

You can check the ingredients contained in this product at this page (http://www.tacticalnutrition.net/index5.htm) in the Tactical Nutrition website by the way.

The plan was to start with 1 cap a day, in the morning (upon waking up), for 5-7 days. Then 1 cap in the morning and 1 at 6PM for the next 5-7 days, and then up it to 4 caps a day (2 in the morning and 2 at 6PM.) I always take 5gm of L-glutamine and approx. 1g of L-carnitine in a full glass of water, and I decided to keep it the same while taking the morning dose of "Explosive Endurance".

Because "Explosive Endurance" contains B vitamins, I stopped taking other B-complexes as well as Niacin/B6 loaded drinks. I continued taking 1,000mcg of B12 (cyanocobalamin) since it's not in "Explosive Endurance". However, this is something I take irregularly. I eat approximately 5-8 times a day, including a protein shake, more or less following a Zone diet (or something resembling 1/3 protein, 1/3 grains and 1/3 greens.) Basically, that's the context in which I've been trying "Explosive Endurance".

The first week of the trial, I ended up working overtime with probably 5-6 hours of sleep in three days. And it was shocking to find that I was able to fall sleep and wake up almost immediately regardless of the stress and short amount of zzz-time in those three days. That was with only 1 capsule in the mornings.

It has been the same for the entire three weeks. I am able to sleep deeply instead of waking up several times at night as it's been the case for quite sometime. Thus, this is the most immediate benefit I've observed with this product.

Another benefit has been an increase in appetite. This has been more pronounced since I started taking 4 capsules a day. I do not get drowsy or tired in the afternoons, and I seem to have more energy than usual during my morning workouts.

I do not believe this is a placebo effect for the fact that sleeping patterns is something one cannot necessarily control or imagine. I do not wake up as often anymore. My sleep has been of the best quality in years. This has had a tremendous impact in the quality of life. Furthermore, it does not produce in me any jittery effects similar to those produced by ephedra-based products.

My recommendation would be to use "Explosive Endurance" combined once in a while with B12 (unless future versions of the product includes it.) I strongly recommend this if you are having sleeping problems (not uncommon for those who train hard and often at nights.) Trouble falling sleep (and staying sleep) has been a constant complain I've heard from many who train MA at night. I strongly believe this product can enhance the ability to rest, to wake up fresh, and to have additional energy in the afternoon, just prior to your training session (this is all assuming a proper diet and healthy lifestyles.)

I'm 5'6" and around 165-170lbs, and I have no problem taking four capsules a day. You may want to take this into account if you are a heavier individual.

I hope you guys find this review helpful.

Kintanon
5/23/2008 2:48pm,
This is going on my list right after the fish oil caps.
Did you notice any other side effects after you starting taking it? Any affect on how you felt while running or anything?

Teh El Macho
5/23/2008 3:07pm,
Not exactly while exercising but throughout the whole day. I felt much more alert, less sleepy, less tired/drained. Now, I can wake up and just get ready to go work out or to to work, and I'm not crashing into narcoleptic **** at 6-7pm the way I used to.

Kentucky Fried Chokin
5/23/2008 3:19pm,
Awesome. I have had sleep problems for a long time, so I'll give a try.

Holy **** this stuff is expensive. Does anyone know where I can get it the cheapest?

Nevermind, apparently you can only get it at vitacost.

Kintanon
5/23/2008 3:31pm,
At 50$ for a months supply I can handle that if it makes me sleep better and improves my energy levels. Small price to pay for me. At 80$/month (retail) it's not as nice of a proposition, but still worth it if it works.

Kentucky Fried Chokin
5/23/2008 3:33pm,
I was looking at the ingredients and it just looks like a lot of B vitamins and some caffine and green tea. How is this different from similiar supplements?

Teh El Macho
5/23/2008 3:39pm,
The cost kinda even up for me since I don't need to take more B-complex supplements, energy drinks or coffee.

Now that I'm looking at the review I see a correction regarding my current physical activity. In the last two weeks I've run less and spend a lot more time doing flexibility drills (specially for my lower back and thoraccic spine.)

And yet, I've gained about 3-4 pounds, reduced my waist size a bit, and I'm like f* hungry all the time.

The weight gain and waist reduction could be because now I was overtrained and the forced rest is giving my body the break it needed to grow more lean mass. But the increased appetite, that cannot be placebo and cannot be explained with a reduction of exercise. I seriously believe it's this supplement's work.

Please keep in mind that people react differently. This is what I've experienced, and I'm certainly going to keep this product while getting rid of the other B-complex supplements. Give it a try and see if it works for you.

Kintanon
5/23/2008 3:44pm,
Any chance of getting a follow up review after another 30 days? I'd like to know if the effects continue the same, increase, or decrease and if you notice anything else.
Also, I'm already having a hard time getting the 3200 cals I need to maintain my weight. If this stuff makes me hungrier I'ma be eatting 10 meals a day and go broke buying food....

Teh El Macho
5/23/2008 3:45pm,
I was looking at the ingredients and it just looks like a lot of B vitamins and some caffine and green tea. How is this different from similiar supplements?

Good question. I'm waiting for Dan (Tactical Nut) to answer that.

In general, the different between supplements is in the proportions of ingredients when taken together and their rate of absorption. Also, this product has ingredients that usually come as separate products, such as CoEnzyme Q-10 and Taurine (as well as the good old tried and true such as Ginko and Magnesium).

muddy
5/24/2008 1:47pm,
could it be the caffeine keeping you revved up during the day and thus more sleepy at night? Might be interesting to replace the supplement with the same doses of caffeine at the same time of day and see how you feel ...

how much caffeine does it have anyway?

Teh El Macho
5/24/2008 8:10pm,
could it be the caffeine keeping you revved up during the day and thus more sleepy at night?

I've never had that problem dude. In my description, I describe the problem as waking up constantly regardless of how tired I was. Waking up every 3 hours has been a constant problem.

However, before starting using this product, I ruled out caffeeine as a factor because I only drink 2-3 cups a day, watered down, really really watered down. I don't drink coffee that much compared to most people. And I've been drinking more or less the same the whole time.

The sleeping problem has been gone since I started using this product. It's been awesome-o.

Tactical Nut.
5/26/2008 9:17am,
Awesome. I have had sleep problems for a long time, so I'll give a try.

Holy **** this stuff is expensive. Does anyone know where I can get it the cheapest?

Nevermind, apparently you can only get it at vitacost.

Not to fear, we set up a coupon code for Bullshido members to use and receive $10 off (coupon does not expire).

Upon checkout, you will be asked for a coupon/source code, use: PANDA and you'll receive $10 off.

Tactical Nut.
5/26/2008 9:55am,
Good question. I'm waiting for Dan (Tactical Nut) to answer that.

In general, the different between supplements is in the proportions of ingredients when taken together and their rate of absorption. Also, this product has ingredients that usually come as separate products, such as CoEnzyme Q-10 and Taurine (as well as the good old tried and true such as Ginko and Magnesium).

Sorry this took me so long, some local storms knocked out my internet and A/C, some holiday weekend.

It's easy to jack somebody up on caffeine (from whatever source) and have them feel something...until they crash. Not the most effective method for improving performance. Caffeine is an ingredient in this product, but it is only a piece of the puzzle. The simple fact is that caffeine has an impact upon endurance / perceived exertion and reaction times, the critical aims of this product, and benefits the fighters I was working with were looking for. That being said, the dose to obtain such benefits in clinical studies is typically at or around 190mg, far less than many of the top sports products contain.

More importantly, the b-vitamins, apdatogenic herbs (Rhodiola Rosea) and amino acids (L-tyrosine and L-taurine) help support the adrenal glands and thus the body's abilty to deal with stress, hence the enhanced recovery and rest that Teh El Macho refers to. This is often the case when we feel "overtired" or suffer from restless sleep, the body is too run down to rest/ recover effectively.

As to what else makes the formula special, I have three answers (shortest first):

1) Please visit www.tacticalnutrition.net (http://www.tacticalnutrition.net) and we have a breakdown of each ingredient and it's benefit relative to the formula. I will also be updating the blog weekly with any new research that comes out (for example, two studies are underway on CoQ10 and endurance, showing much promise).

2) This is the first product designed specifically for fighters, it isn't some existing company "targeting" people who train how we do, but it was designed specifically because the trainers at ATT asked me for something that wasn't out there. I train at ATT daily, and if it didn't work, I certainly wouldn't be able to show my face!

3) I'd like to explain how we came by this formula and highlight a few other ingredients that I find significant. This could get long, so you've been warned. We developed this product with a specific end in mind. Helping fighters fight harder and fight longer. This meant not only improving endurance, but also ensuring that their faculties and skills were there when they needed them. We didn't start with ingredients in mind, or a price point, etc...just a specific result.

I then worked with a scientist that I've worked with for years to review literature on endurance, reaction time (explosiveness) and stress. In many cases, my scientist was able to review studies in progress and speak with the researchers, but overall our focus was upon published research and the dosages used in the research (it is legal to refer to a study even if a company does not use the same dosage as the study, believe it or not). This process took us almost a year, and we learned much from it (a focus on stress / adrenal support, for example) until we were able to filter our possible ingredients into a formula that was practical and effective. As far as some key ingredients that I believe are critical:

Rhodiola Rosea - ( http://www.tacticalnutrition.net/index16.htm ). This adptogenic herb is popular for many benefits, but the one that really caught our eye was that it was commonly used to help wtih focus / cognitive function at high altitude (an oxygen deprived environment, like fatigue). It is also quite popular for stress, and "courage under fire" is another component we feel critical to effective training and performance.

Gingko Biloba - ( http://www.tacticalnutrition.net/index14.htm ). Very popular for helping getting oxygen to the brain and circulation, oxygen is critical to endurance and optimal function. Our product contains the tested dose and potency in a three capsule dose.

Magnesium - ( http://www.tacticalnutrition.net/index27.htm ). Easily missed, and most Americans are deficient, but magnesium plays a critical role in heart performance and nerve function...again, critical components to performance.

I could go on, but this post is already awfully long, so I'll leave you with this. You won't find any magical new ingredients in this formula, or any outrageous claims...but quite simply the tactical application of established science. I think we have a great product, and will gladly answer any other questions you guys have.

Thank you for your interest.

muddy
5/26/2008 10:27am,
Sorry this took me so long, some local storms knocked out my internet and A/C, some holiday weekend.
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Rhodiola Rosea - ( http://www.tacticalnutrition.net/index16.htm ). This adptogenic herb is popular for many benefits, but the one that really caught our eye was that it was commonly used to help wtih focus / cognitive function at high altitude (an oxygen deprived environment, like fatigue). It is also quite popular for stress, and "courage under fire" is another component we feel critical to effective training and performance.

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Thanks for taking the time to write this. It is nice to see someone promoting a fitness supplement product in this way (as opposed to some of the more common marketing techniques).

I wasn't familiar with Rhodiola Rosea till now and it piqued my curiosity. The locals where I live (Bolivia) use Coca leaves for many of the same benefits, and I often wondered if it (coca leaves) wouldnt be a staple supplement in other parts of the world if not for it's use in the manufacture of cocaine.

I havent tried coca leaf tea as a supplement only because it looks just like cocaine on drug tests (even though I dont think anyone considers the natural unaltered coca leaf a dangerous drug) ... maybe Rhodiola Rosea is an alternative with similar benefits.

anyhow, thanks again for the info ... I think I will give it a try.

Tactical Nut.
5/27/2008 1:53pm,
Glad to help, and I'm happy to provide the information. As a matter of fact, I updated the blog yesterday with some links to nutrition and training articles that I found interesting. Here's the link if you want to take a look: http://www.tacticalnutrition.net/index53.htm .

Big Dozer
6/01/2008 6:16am,
Well I did the math and thats about what I spend on energy drinks. I dont get the fun taste, but I will have to give this one a try. Thanks.