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kingwado
2/29/2008 7:41am,
This is my first proper thread on here, except my newb, hello be nice to me thread.
I dont know if this will have an success (there seems to be very few of us on here)
but here goes, i thought id set up a little home for the wado guys/gals to congregate,
talk about the art and generally mingle, i will keep it short and sweet for now and see who shows up.
Anyone whos interested in starting wado ryu will also have a place to rack brains with us.
cheers for now kingwado

Roidie McDouchebag
2/29/2008 4:36pm,
I once took down and armbarred a Wado guy. Ever after that, when he got pissed off, I'd say "Wado you gonna do about it?"

kingwado
2/29/2008 4:53pm,
Also our wado kai brethren,

ahhh martial arts xmas crackers

hoodedmonk
2/29/2008 4:56pm,
This is my first proper thread on here, except my newb, hello be nice to me thread.
I dont know if this will have an success (there seems to be very few of us on here)
but here goes, i thought id set up a little home for the wado guys/gals to congregate,
talk about the art and generally mingle, i will keep it short and sweet for now and see who shows up.
Anyone whos interested in starting wado ryu will also have a place to rack brains with us.
cheers for now kingwadohow bout a little history about youre ma.

kingwado
3/01/2008 2:53am,
i will get back with the history, hooded monk, it will be a lengthyish post, and i will try and make it user freindly, i will do it this afternoon, if any other wado guys beat me to the punch, i wont be offended, as im sure you will better litarary skills, but i will do my best in the event im the only wado man on here, if thats the case i may have to become a wado evangelist.

kingwado
3/01/2008 3:00am,
**** ive just noticed that ive lost my newb banner, thank **** for that, its like a boy wearing a bow in his hair on the first day of school.

jvjim
3/01/2008 10:23pm,
My experiences with Wado-ryu were good. The people were really nice, and some of the upper dans had a really nice mae-geri. Wish we had done full contact sparring and mixed in some judo stuff.

kingwado
3/01/2008 10:31pm,
jvjim, there are wado places you can get that kind of training but they require hunting down, our little break away group of schools offers it to brown belts and above,

kingwado
3/01/2008 10:58pm,
how bout a little history about youre ma.

right first off ive decided to cheat a bit with this, and i will put a few disclaimers in just incase a real wado book worm, decides to do a bit of nit picking, quite a lot of martial arts history is debated quite strongly here,
its strange in a way because when people say the phrase traditional karate it makes our arts sound really old, but if you factor in things like the fact wados founder only died in 1982, its all actually pretty recent histrory.
Also for the benefit of others im going to limit any japanese, and what japanese i do use i will translate.
Technique and philosophy wise i can only come from the perspective of my own club, (which is outward looking, but at the same time ultra traditional)
Hironori otsuka, taught his son, who taught a guy who taught my sensei, ive been in the same room as otsukas son on a number of occasions, and had the pleasure of training with him.

To get a large slice of history, im going to let wikipedia do some of the work, please look up, wado ryu, hironori otsuka, choki motobu and gichen funakoshi, there are a few blue worded links within these pages that are worth browsing through,

If you would like to see some wado ryu training vids and other bits and bobs, on youtube there is a guy named wadoaj, search the user name, he has put up about 40 clips, some very very good, a few others had me tutting.

I will post again tommorow in order to expand on the above,

jvjim
3/01/2008 11:17pm,
From what I can remember off the top of my head, the early years of Otsuka's life were devoted to jujitsu training. After a brief stint as a bank manager, he met Funakoshi and eventually decided to blend Funakoshi's Okinawan Karate with his extensive jujitsu experience. That's why in purer styles (the style I trained in was an offshoot,) you see more natural stances and TONS of tai-subaki. If I recall correctly, there aren't as many kata's in pure Wado-ryu as most other ryus.

kingwado
3/01/2008 11:57pm,
From what I can remember off the top of my head, the early years of Otsuka's life were devoted to jujitsu training. After a brief stint as a bank manager, he met Funakoshi and eventually decided to blend Funakoshi's Okinawan Karate with his extensive jujitsu experience. That's why in purer styles (the style I trained in was an offshoot,) you see more natural stances and TONS of tai-subaki. If I recall correctly, there aren't as many kata's in pure Wado-ryu as most other ryus.

On the face of it no there isnt as many kata, we have less half as many as shotokan for example, but we do have a few paired kata on top of that, (a throwback to the jujutsu connection) but, and its only my opinion, a paired kata ran at full speed is of more use.
Also our single kata tend to be quite short compared to many from other traditional karate styles, i think on style of karate has over 40 kata (uechi ryu i think, im probably mixed up so feel free to correct)
but whichever style has the 40 it must take the brain space of a ferengi to remember them all.

krazy kaju
3/02/2008 3:05pm,
Waddle ryu?

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Ryaninja/from%20iDisk/fat1.jpg

kingwado
3/02/2008 3:55pm,
jvjim, the more traditional the dojo, the greater the influence of jujutsu, quite a few lesser dojos have opted for a more karate-ish approach, but when alls said and done when the style was first registered in japan, jujutsu appeared in the name.
The footwork we use is almost all derived from jujutsu, as is the blocking, locking, chokes,throwing, sweeping and pressure point attacks, to a large degree all are influenced
by otsukas jujutsu training.
Part of me feels that wado ryu is a style of jujutsu rather than a style of karate, but i like the title of karate ka, so i follow the japanese decision on it.
The strikes, kicking, knees elbows and head attacks are obviously influenced heavily by otsukas times under funakoshi and arguably to a greater extent under motobu,
We have many ways of doing certain things which involves blocking and attacking at the same time ie both hand react at the same time, one to deflect or block and the other to hit through the resulting gap, i dont know if this is more karate than jujutsu or the other way around.
We have a fair few fist shapes, most of which will most likely be of karate origin but i cant make that claim fo certain, but when ive compaired with the other trad karate styles, hand shapes are to a geater or lesser extent the same.
The boss (wife) is calling i will have to shut up for now.

Histpun
3/03/2008 3:54am,
Took it when I was a kid in an after school program. It has great form but, personally, I think the instructor focused too much on board and brick breaking rather than true to life self defense.

kingwado
3/03/2008 4:53am,
Took it when I was a kid in an after school program. It has great form but, personally, I think the instructor focused too much on board and brick breaking rather than true to life self defense.

That is astounding, im speechless, though i will give it a shot.
Ive been doing wado ryu for ten years nearly and i can honestly say ive yet to break a brick or a plank of wood, ive yet to be asked.
Its strange how two clubs of a style can differ,
Plank and brick breaking sounds like a gimmick to me but i will reserve judgement on it.
most of our time, roughly half the session is paired work,

Histpun
3/03/2008 10:48am,
That is astounding, im speechless, though i will give it a shot.
Ive been doing wado ryu for ten years nearly and i can honestly say ive yet to break a brick or a plank of wood, ive yet to be asked.
Its strange how two clubs of a style can differ,
Plank and brick breaking sounds like a gimmick to me but i will reserve judgement on it.
most of our time, roughly half the session is paired work,
Say what you want about it, I really don't care for brick and board breaking.