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Pandinha
12/05/2007 4:09pm,
Maybe. I'll wait for the Sally Field "Save the Children" thread that you're sure to make to see what kind of mood I'm in.
I wasn't able to make this point with my last post as I was driving...
So dude, you are Fire and Brimstone, full speed ahead guns blazing when it comes to this site and how Bullshido's business should be done, but apathetic when any repercussions arise?
Yeah, we should really listen to your advice.
The Question
12/05/2007 4:11pm,
Also Anthony you are probably the biggest dork I have ever heard of accepting a fight challenge. "Count down to "anthony" and rudy able fight". Damn man you say you are thirty nine and have two kids then grow up. I think you are just a drama whore and love to say" look at me" well we looked give it a rest allready. Not meaning any disrespect but you read more into things than there are. Yes were interested but the repeat business is a little childish.
I have to say, that I am on some level in agreement with this.
I wasn't able to make this point with my last post as I was driving...
So dude, you are Fire and Brimstone, full speed ahead guns blazing when it comes to this site and how Bullshido's business should be done, but apathetic when any repercussions arise?
Yeah, we should really listen to your advice.
"Fire and Brimstone, full speed ahead guns blazing when it comes to this site"? What are you talking about? To me this site is a place to jack my jaw with some people that share a common interest. Nothing more, nothing less. I honestly can't recall ever saying anything about how business should be done before this thread. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. And I wouldn't have said anything now, if you weren't talking **** to everyone on the thread and panicking like a bitch about some make-believe lawsuit. It's comical.
Pandinha
12/05/2007 4:21pm,
I like the site but some of the members are really retarded. (just an oppinion) Also Anthony you are probably the biggest dork I have ever heard of accepting a fight challenge. "Count down to "anthony" and rudy able fight". Damn man you say you are thirty nine and have two kids then grow up. I think you are just a drama whore and love to say" look at me" well we looked give it a rest allready. Not meaning any disrespect but you read more into things than there are. Yes were interested but the repeat business is a little childish.
Hey Buddy. Why don't you shut the **** up? You definately have alot to say for someone who challenges Omega to a fight, and then backs out like a bitch.
Seriousmantid is the PRIME EXAMPLE of what I mean about Idiots who do Challenges on Bullshido.
Now you your not a teacher if you are you give the sorriest example of one. snipped...
So you say you know 8 step and guys that take it have to take BJJ just to do well on the ground your full of ****. In 2 years my teacher wont care how far I go when I spar And since you are god and so tuff and experienced I better wait if I know whats good for me.
YOU ARE A JOKE I thought that you taught something formidable but KICKBOXING
KICKBOXING hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
YOU REALLY ARE A JOKE OMEGA IF KICKBOXING IS YOUR MAIN THING THEN WE CAN GET IT ON ANY DAMN TIME YOU WANT
AND IKNOW YOU DONT TRAIN PEOPLE IN KUNG FU YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT MIND SET
IF YOU DO TRAIN KUNG FU YOU ARE THE ABSOLUTELY THE WORST TEACHER I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE TO TALK TO YOUR A JOKE AND EXTREMELY DUMB.
You have a MMA record of 3-2 only five fights and you retired some bad ass you are. You are not now nor ever will be a good teacher unless you drop the ego.
And still you havent addressed my question which proves that you are more full of **** than I thought. You know where I am at come see me because you cant possibly be in California they dont allow people as dumb as you to live there.
GET A LIFE GET A LIFE GET A LIFE GET A LIFE
Not a problem. A plane ticket from your area should cost about $440. If not more. I will put the plane ticket money in escrow. There is a throwdown August 4th in Ventura CA. If you beat me in a 5 round fight I will pay for your plane ticket. San Shou rules are in effect, if you would like to change them to mma or nhb that will be fine by me what is your response?
I do not want to have any ill feelings with anyone I concede you win I cant take you I want you to forgive me for losing my faculties for a moment. Where is your Kung Fu school located so I might come and learn the real good stuff that Im missing if You dont mind teaching me? Im just really interested in MA I thought the people on this site were too. And now I see that you are all really serious about martial arts. And Chuan I think I know you lol your rhyme seems so familiar to me.
I am not trying to cause rivalries so forgive me for any wrong doing I might have done.
EternalRage
12/05/2007 4:29pm,
lets all take a moment and remember who the real bad guys are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu719Jrqbh0
Pandinha
12/05/2007 4:35pm,
"Fire and Brimstone, full speed ahead guns blazing when it comes to this site"? What are you talking about? To me this site is a place to jack my jaw with some people that share a common interest. Nothing more, nothing less. I honestly can't recall ever saying anything about how business should be done before this thread. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. And I wouldn't have said anything now, if you weren't talking **** to everyone on the thread and panicking like a bitch about some make-believe lawsuit. It's comical.
I mistook you for another idiot, my bad.
So you assume I'm panicking. Just like I assumed you were the janitor at your work. Fair enough.
Since you assumed wrong, I'll address it. This thread isn't about us being sued, it's about how our member actions and the subsequent repercussions.
Feel free to chime in about your experiences with your company being sued, and how that gives your opinion validity in this thread. Because Bullshido isn't a company. It's one man, my friend, who gets fucked. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure he doesn't.
LI GUY 1
12/05/2007 4:35pm,
You guys are nuts.
None of us went for glory, we went because we honestly thought it was all true. We were trolled. By we I mean me, Mikey, and KempoFist.
ACA chose to say they trolled Bullshido, Bullshido had very little to do with it.
Hell when smabosteve offered his services I posted that this was not a Bullshido thing and I did not want BS telling us what to do. I got some advice but in the end was not going to follow any rules they made, I wanted to get a good fight in. Any thread made here was either a "LOL AL PERRY" thread or just bringing up the issue.
No challenge was made or accepted through BS.
If Phrost gets sued over this, not our problem, we do not own the site, and did not drag the site into this. Quit saying we were wrong because we hurt BS's image or did not think of the consequences for BS.
BS was watching, not a part of, the Al Perry incident.
Lastly, this was nt a glory for BS thing. I do not want glory for BS, that is gay, BS is a website. Do I want to fight a guy claiming false BJJ credentials? Yeah! That would be fun for me!
I believe the words "no disrespect" were used after the string of insults, and not before.
Thank you, that makes all the difference. Seriously, it doesn't mean the same thing if you say it first or say it last. Two completely different meanings.
LI GUY 1
12/05/2007 4:39pm,
Since you assumed wrong, I'll address it. This thread isn't about us being sued, it's about how our member actions and the subsequent repercussions.
We are members of this site. That is coincedental to this whole deal. This would have happened with or without BS. The debacle was not a "member action". It was action taken by people who are also members of BS.
I have a Pathmark shopper's card. Is the Al Perry meshap a bad reflection on Pathmark?
Pandinha
12/05/2007 4:39pm,
You guys are nuts.
None of us went for glory, we went because we honestly thought it was all true. We were trolled. By we I mean me, Mikey, and KempoFist.
ACA chose to say they trolled Bullshido, Bullshido had very little to do with it.
Hell when smabosteve offered his services I posted that this was not a Bullshido thing and I did not want BS telling us what to do. I got some advice but in the end was not going to follow any rules they made, I wanted to get a good fight in. Any thread made here was either a "LOL AL PERRY" thread or just bringing up the issue.
No challenge was made or accepted through BS.
If Phrost gets sued over this, not our problem, we do not own the site, and did not drag the site into this. Quit saying we were wrong because we hurt BS's image or did not think of the consequences for BS.
BS was watching, not a part of, the Al Perry incident.
Lastly, this was nt a glory for BS thing. I do not want glory for BS, that is gay, BS is a website. Do I want to fight a guy claiming false BJJ credentials? Yeah! That would be fun for me!
Don't make me dig up the thread where everyone is asking for tags prior to the event.
I said this earlier. All of your hearts were in the right place, it just needed to be addressed more. Hopefully this troll job makes everyone that much more wary.
LI GUY 1
12/05/2007 4:41pm,
Go ahead and dig it up, you won't find my name. Gaurunteed.
You may find I said I did not care about any of the lineage or anything else anymore.
You will find I wanted to fight MMA to see how the students were in general MA skill.
Feel free to chime in about your experiences with your company being sued, and how that gives your opinion validity in this thread. Because Bullshido isn't a company. It's one man, my friend, who gets fucked. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure he doesn't.
Anthony, YOU are the one that brought business ownership and the realities of being sued into this thread. Not me.
I can totally respect your desire to keep Phrost from getting sued. I just think you're going about it the wrong way and acting like an ass in the process.
UpaLumpa
12/05/2007 4:45pm,
I don't expect you to be a part of it, you aren't happy unless you are bitching about something.
Anthony,
The difference is that I don't claim to be helping the site and "movement" or "mission" or whatever while also sinking it with my actions.
I know, I know. You make more money than me and have forked some fair amount of cash over to people either to help make throwdowns happen, or challenges or whatever. Fine, I'm happy for you.
How though does that give you the right to be a sanctimonious cock (my job, formerly Wastrel's) two months after your own escapades? Saying, "hey guy's this is something to keep in mind" would be a lot less hypocritical and laughtastic.
Also,
Somehow the whole focus has been shifted from finding and "exsposing" Martial Arts Fakes to "fighting" them in a Glorious Death Match.
This needs to be addressed. Because if this attitude wasn't here, we wouldn't have this thread.
that's really been the focus since there were people able to scrap on this site. How many times has Omega been threatened on people? Hell, the original concept of throwdowns was to allow demonstration of why some training practices were argued to be superior.
It is totally reasonable (and necessary) to try and shift course at some point, but be upfront about things and recognize that your own actions necessitate a different tone.
Pandinha
12/05/2007 4:46pm,
We are members of this site. That is coincedental to this whole deal. This would have happened with or without BS. The debacle was not a "member action". It was action taken by people who are also members of BS.
I have a Pathmark shopper's card. Is the Al Perry meshap a bad reflection on Pathmark?
Does Pathmark give out "Amateur Shopping Tags"? Or can you get "I will travel to shop" tags there? I mean, if you ask really nicely and all?
Bullshido is martial arts board that's mission is to expose frauds. We don't sell toiletries here. While we are the medium for the planning of the Al meetup, none of you would receive any law correspondence if this went awry in that sense.
The grand scale of things, you all got top notch Sambo training, no one got hurt, and we got trolled. Woopity doo. Let's not let this happen again.
That's stupid, but I don't see how it relates to the Al incident. At least not since the guy's you're having a go at in this instance were the ones who were challenged in the first place, and they followed through in a responsible manner.
Edit: christ, didn't realise the thread had moved on. I'm referring to the seriousmantid incident with Omega.
Pandinha
12/05/2007 4:47pm,
Anthony, YOU are the one that brought business ownership and the realities of being sued into this thread. Not me.
I can totally respect your desire to keep Phrost from getting sued. I just think you're going about it the wrong way and acting like an ass in the process.
Yes I did, FOR AN INDIVIDUAL. Not for a company, but that's probably hard to read with all the multiple twists this thread has taken.
As for acting an Ass. It's what an XO does, so the CO doesn't have too.
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