Sharkonis
11/17/2007 3:26pm,
Travels where?
Did ya miss the part that said ( although confined in your head ) Didja, didja miss it man, huh, huh, didja didja. lol
Travels where?
From neuron to neuron.
NSLightsOut
11/17/2007 7:23pm,
The Secret by Rhonda Byrne, She's one of yours mate.
And check out what other Aussies think of this bizarre selective praxis of random Asian and Western philosophical beliefs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbNJMUZSwo
I watched the documentary when it was on tv and laughed my ass off - it's absolutely hilarious when the 'proof' of this brand-spanking ancient theory is the success of other self-help charlatans. Whilst there is a lot to be said for positive thinking, I think my ancestors who happen to be buried along with roughly 1.5 million people in a lovely little Polish village called Oswiecm would have to disagree with you on it's power.
How do we get Bullshido.net mentioned on Oprah?
Call one of the shows producers and suggest a segment on defeating fraud in everyday life. How there are slimeballs taking advantage of soccer-moms who just want to get there kid some exercise....
Poop Loops
11/17/2007 9:20pm,
Did ya miss the part that said ( although confined in your head ) Didja, didja miss it man, huh, huh, didja didja. lol
My head isn't moving anywhere. So where are my thoughts going exactly?
Poop Loops
11/17/2007 9:27pm,
By the way, this is a moot point since light travels THE SAME SPEED no matter how fast you are going.
So if you think you'll go 2 x 10^8 m/s and light will slow down, you are wrong. Light will STILL be going 3 x 10^8 m/s
Sharkonis
11/17/2007 9:36pm,
By the way, this is a moot point since light travels THE SAME SPEED no matter how fast you are going.
So if you think you'll go 2 x 10^8 m/s and light will slow down, you are wrong. Light will STILL be going 3 x 10^8 m/s
Well Im certainly not smart enough to begin to understand all the math stuff, so you got me there, as for the rest of it, I think Ill stick to good old faith. Peace.
theword
11/18/2007 2:50am,
In my experience 'The Secret' turns people into dicks. I know a couple of people who are or were big into it and they had this smug, masturbatory tone in their voices whenever they would talk about the things I was doing wrong and why I wasn't achieving. Of course this was coming from people I was working with at a movie theater and earning a cool $6.50 an hour.
kracker
11/18/2007 5:31pm,
Whoever thought of that stuff should get into some honest competition. Preferably one where they might get KTFO. It can be a very enlightening experience.
Secret believer: "If I visualize knocking out Fedor hard enough I can step in the ring out of shape with no MA training of any kind and do it!!!!!!"
Then, when that dude gets raped fasted then the "speed of thought" perhaps we can put this nonsense behing us. Just think though, if it worked a whole pile of really awesome stuff would be possible.
"I visualize the roulette ball landing on the single digit I placed my life savings on"
"I visualize an entire Victoria Secret cast naked on my bed"
"I visualize not getting arrested for doing [insert crime here]"
"I visualize LtX turning me into the d34dly warrior he promises me I'll become if I buy his crap"
Seeing as none of the above happened, the Secret certainly cannot be taken at face value. HOWEVER the placebo effect (which is all the secret is in reality) IS scientifically proven to be incredibly powerful and has tremendous value. Positive thinking therefore is important, but not in the way that the Secret tries to pass it off as.
IndoChinese
11/18/2007 7:48pm,
lolz...
teh s3cr3t= can make a fucking decision and act on it.
Codswallop
11/18/2007 10:24pm,
Did I get that wrong? Did someone actually say thought travels faster than light?
Oy!
It's probably one of those quantum thingies.
Poop Loops
11/18/2007 10:56pm,
Quantum stupidity?
Gypsy Jazz
11/18/2007 11:43pm,
Well Im certainly not smart enough to begin to understand all the math stuff, so you got me there, as for the rest of it, I think Ill stick to good old faith. Peace.
I usually try my best not to be a dick, but this reads to me as follows:
Sometimes things happen which I can't understand, and finding out the explanations is difficult (something I sympathize with). So instead of making an effort to actually understand the tough stuff, I substitute the supernatural and then institute a selection bias to confirm this belief system. I'm still a nice person though, so I wish you well.
I usually try my best not to be a dick, but this reads to me as follows:
Sometimes things happen which I can't understand, and finding out the explanations is difficult (something I sympathize with). So instead of making an effort to actually understand the tough stuff, I substitute the supernatural and then institute a selection bias to confirm this belief system. I'm still a nice person though, so I wish you well.
Ban plz.
kracker
11/19/2007 8:07am,
I'm not arguing that it's very strong evidence. Stronger by far is the complete lack of affirmative evidence. My point is that the only study I have ever seen points in a negative direction. I also find it suggestive that it was a study commissioned by a foundation seeking to prove the power of prayer -- more likely, then, that the conditions (however inappropriate you may consider them) were in place to make the test manageable or to fit experimental parameters than to deliberately cause the experiment to fail.
But if you can cite a proper study showing contrary evidence, I'll be interested to hear it.
I can: http://home.comcast.net/~neardeath/religion/001_pages/01.html
Petter
11/19/2007 10:45am,
Can you actually cite a study? All I see is a BBC article, and unfortunately mainstream media don't ever seem to get science right. (I don't usually read mainstream reports on science anymore; it makes me sad when they claim results that I'm happy with.) Two or three studies that were published in respectable, peer-reviewed journals would carry far more weight than a news article that makes reference to twenty-three studies, names none of them, and makes entirely vague statements about quality and placebo tests.
(No, I'm not moving the goal posts. I did say in the first place that "if you can cite a proper study..." [emphasis added], and a BBC article isn't it.)
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