Two milligrams of D3 will kill an average size dog. Do your own research.

Two milligrams of D3 will kill an average size dog. Do your own research.And? Do you know that hypervitaminosis levels change from species to species, right? Furthermore, this little factoid you brough us mean nothing. No ****, 2 milligrams of cholecalciferol will kill a dog. No **** Captain obvious. 2 milligrams of D3 is a letal dosage. What's the news on that? Tell me something I don't know.

For instance, tell me how much D3 is being used per little of commercial milk? Don't tell me that a letal dosage of D3 can kill (that's why it's a... duh... letal dosage.) Tell me how much is it being used per little of commercially available milk to see if its below, the same or above toxicity/lethal levels.

Yes, we can do our own research, but the rule has always been that if you make a claim, you present a reference. That is, you don't present a fact (even if its true) and say "you find the references."

That's not how it works dude. Maybe on Yahoo Answers, but not here. Lurk more and post less and maybe you'll see how things work here.

And I'm still waiting for the references on the 80,000 Hutus poised on South Africa in 1987 with D3. Your oxymoron factoid that a lethal dosage of cholecalciferol is... well... lethal doesn't tell us much, specially on how it was used to kill 80,000 Hutus in South Africa.

I mean, how do you kill Hutus in South Africa? They live in the Great Lakes Region, in Burundi and Rwanda, pretty fucking far away from South Africa.

I'm looking forward to hear your sources. And yes, I did my due diligent search for resources on this apparent mass murder of people with D3 in 1987 and couldn't find anything.

(NOT THAT SUCH A FACTOID SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT HOW MUCH D3 IS BEING USED PER LITTLE OF COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE MILK... ASSUMING THAT SUCH A FACTOID IS TRUE TO BEGIN WITH.)

http://vitamind.ucr.edu/milk.html <--- Reputable source on D3 in milk, along with pretty much anything else you wanted to know about milk. So all the trolls can STFU and RTFA now.

And for the record you would have to drink... Lessee... 400 UI/quart umm...50ish quarts of milk per day to start worrying about D3 poisoning if my quick math is correct. Oh, that's if you're a dog and 2 mg will kill you.... Humans are probably somewhat more than that.

Ok, I couldn't resist, according to this http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/326/7387/469#30125 fellow 100,000 UI of D3 is a lethal dose, since most milk contains 400 UI per quart that's 250 quarts of milk for a lethal dose of D3. That's 100 gallons. So good luck getting D3 poisoning.

OK.

Everything in large quantites can be harmful or fatal to you. Water, vitamins, food, hell even oxygen (you body can become dependant on pure O2 and not able to sustain life on the mixture we call air). So yes, EVERYTHING in moderation.

You body also has the ability to filter out certain quatities of most everything. Granted, depending on what it is, the levels will vary and those levels will vary from person to person. SO again, EVERYTHING in moderation.

Don't consume ANYTHING in any greater quantitiy than your body can handle.

Do you mean Hurons? The were a Native American tribe living near the Great Lakes... hence Lake Huron.

All right, granted, but will the doses build up and take cumulative effect over time? I'm sure I drink a hundred gallons of milk over, say, the course of 2-4 years.

For example, will I someday be able to challenge a Sicilian to a game of wits, ask him to choose which goblet is poisoned, and confidently quaff a goblet with a bunch of D3 in it?

Because that would be cool, and somebody should have mentioned it at some point. I might never have found out.

Anybody see the documentary, "The Corporation" ? It has a segment on milk production in the US. Scary stuff. Made me switch to Organic.

Don: Unfortunately, no. Accourding to my fiance who holds a BS in Biology from Stetson University the body metabolizes D3 on a pretty regular basis and hence you would be unable to build up a huge supply over time. If you were to somehow find 100,000 UI of D3 in pure concentrated form and chug it you may very well die. Even that quantity apparently isn't universally fatal. Some people it seems can ingest even more without it being a fatal dose. The 100,000 UI mark is a minimum for possible fatality apparently.

Also, and this just caught my eye, why did TM called D3 a "hormonal steroid"? Look at this particular double talk.


Most commercial milk in the U.S. is now using the hormonal steroid D3 rather than the algae derived D2.

Since when is D3 a hormonal steroid? And why is it that TM choose to call D2 "algae derived"? If he's going to call D3 a hormonal steroid, shouldn't he also had explained that D2 is derived from ergosterol, a sterol (a subgroup of steroid) of fungal, not algal, origin. It also has a steroid origin, and it's not from algae or plant origin, but fungal (ergo of closer animalia than vegetable/algal origin).

Furthermore, cholecalciferol is obtained by UV irradiating 7-Dehydrocholesterol. And guess what, 7-Dehydrocholesterol already exists in the human skin, and in the milk of several mammalian species.

Furthermore, according to wiki, it was Adolf Otto Reinhold Windaus, a german chemist. I can't find any reference to D3 being first patented as rat poison in Sweden.

Notice however, that if you search for "D3 rat poison" you get **** like this:


Is there Rat Poison in Your Milk -- Information on milk cartons reveal that two ingredients fill the container: Milk and Vitamin D-3. Vitamin D-3 is used to kill rats! Why is it added to milk for our children to drink in the name of good health?

In 1932, Title 21 Code of Federal Regulations required that
400 units of rat poison be added to every quart of milk sold
in America.

And guess from where that comes from? Ta-da. notmilk.com (http://www.notmilk.com/ratpoison.html)

OH NOES!!!! I HAS TEH D3 IN MY SKIN... NATURALLY. ZOMG!!! I'M A WALKING BUNDLE OF RAT POISON!!! I'M A LIVING BIOLOGICAL WEAPON!!11 IM' TEH L33T HAX0R!!ELEVEN!!!

How fucking retarded can these people be in pushing their agendas and believes.

And D3 is being made industrially by UV-irradiating lanolin extracted from sheep wool. I cannot find any reference to it being extracted from pig carcasses.

Now, notice how TM uses the word carcasses. Wow, carcasses, how bad. As in carcasses hanging from meat hooks or carcasses as found in a garbage dump? Anyways, I let that slide.



Anyways, TM, I willl hunt you down in all forums until you fork your sources for the following claims you made or implied:

- That D3 is rat poison (which is not the same as D3 is used in toxic quantities as rat poison). For that matter I can use toxic levels of vitamin A as poison, too.

- That milk contains D3 levels high enough as in rat poison.

- That 80,000 Hutus (an ethnic group that lives in Central Africa) were killed in South Africa with D3 in 1987, three years before the negotiations between the Apartheid gov and the ANC, and seven years before the complete dismantling of the Apartheid regime.

Teh El Macho is like a forum god of some kind. All knowing and wrathful...

I'm like Crom, a grim and gloomy god, ever watching from atop his mountain (in my case, a mountain made out of keyboards and paper clips) in dark clouds and obscuring mists, ready to pass a disapproving judgment on any and all. :new_alien

I hate vegans and creationist who like to fornicate scientific terms to conjure illogical mumbo-jumbo and trying to pass it as scientific validation for their fanatical beliefs.

As I've said it before, if someone, a person or group, has a valid POV, they don't need to conjure crap or trying to pass chicken bones as valid proof. If they feel so inclined to do so, then they never had a valid POV to begin with.

There are two types of beliefs. One type you can back it up or hope to back it up with science (.ie. that there are other planets suitable for human life.)

The other type is strictly a matter of faith (you believe in God, you believe that eating animals is unethical, you believe in morals, whatever.)

If you stick to your faith and see it, believe it and accept it for what it is, that's fine.

If you try to conjure quasi-scientific mumbo jumbo to support or validate your faith-based belief, you are fucking retarded and beyond Crom's pitty :new_alien

I see TEM beat me to the post. I'm leaving mine intact because it has a few articles to back him up.

This is the D3 use he is talking about notice that it is a rodenticide.

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:_l4gAE2A190J:www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/toxbrief_1201.pdf%3FdocID%3D127+Cholecalciferol+ro denticide&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a


There is a table at the bottom of the link below, I found interesting. Notice how TM left everything vague as a scare tactic.

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoservices/pesticidefactsheets/toxic/rodenticide.htm

Anyway someone may want to check my math because, I suck. The best I could find was is it would take 19 ounces = 538,640.939 milligrams to kill a ten pound dog.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=how+many+milligrams+++are+in++19+ounces&btnG=Search

Since we are being asinine according to this link: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_lifestyle_animal/2007/01/the_most_popula.html

The Most popular dog in America was a Labrador Retriever 60-75 pounds. Yeah, scare tactics.

Hehehe, I'm gonna call my uncles in Nicaragua and tell them to kill all their cows. They are fucking biochemical weapons, full of rat poison, disguised as furry creatures that chew grass, lick salt, poop a lot and say mooo.

Hehehe, I'm gonna call my uncles in Nicaragua and tell them to kill all their cows. They are fucking biochemical weapons, full of rat poison, disguised as furry creatures that chew grass, lick salt, poop a lot and say mooo.

Why kill them when you can use them as weapons. If they're really fucking biochemical weapons full of rat poison, disguised as furry creatures that chew grass, lick salt, poop alot and say moo, they woudl be the perfect weapon, no one would ever suspect them until it's too late.

Humans have been drinking milk for tens of thousands of years for a reason. Milk from grass fed cows is healthy and tastes good.

Cows eat grass! Not corn or soybeans!

Soybean juice is NOT milk!
-RoninPimp, militant milk drinker.