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Tyrsmann
12/07/2007 2:03am,
Well there is proof of GODS existence , the proof is all around us and in the bible.

Example : AIR ( the breath of life ).
Can you see air, can you touch air, can you hear air, yet air exists, without air you would not exist!

It's true without oxygen I wouldn't be able to survive.

But actually the trees and other plants produce oxygen through photosynthesis if I remember correctly, not God

As to the bible, well I don't believe in the bible so how would the bible prove the existence of God to anyone who isn't christian.

invinceable1234
12/07/2007 2:17am,
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I'm used to hearing pretty much any degree of stupidity from religious fundamentalists, but here's where your trolling went over the top (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61996&page=93#):

Quote:
Originally Posted by invinceable1234
quote Furthermore, LOL at the idea of the moon luminating. It's actually the sun reflecting off of it.
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reply:
Then how would you explain the moon luminating at night?

No one could be quite that stupid and still be able to e.g. type, dress himself, or cross streets alive.

I'm glad you wrote it, though; I'm tired and I was this close to writing a serious reply.
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Well, then, I am not the only one you can call stupid. I CAN POST MUCH MORE EVIDENCE, IF YOU Want ME TO!
Accession Number : ADA075421
Title : Simulating Various Moon Illumination Levels with Light-Attenuating Devices (LADs).

Descriptive Note : Technical paper,
Corporate Author : ARMY RESEARCH INST FOR THE BEHAVIORAL AND SOCIAL SCIENCES ALEXANDRIA VA
Personal Author(s) : Bleda,Paul R.

Report Date : JUL 1979
Pagination or Media Count : 23
Abstract : To reduce the problems of safety, logistics, and evaluation inherent in training at night, the Army Research Institute has developed experimental light-attenuating devices (LADs) that simulate night visual conditions during the day. Single-density or bi density lenses can be fitted to existing facemask's and used to conduct certain night training operations during the day with little reduction in effectiveness. LADs were used experimentally in training and testing night rifle marksmanship during basic Army training at Fort Jackson, S.C. Filter densities effectively approximated night illumination with a full moon, a quarter moon, and a new moon; trainees using LADs performed as well as trainees performing under actual night conditions. (Author)
Descriptors : *ARMY TRAINING, *NIGHT WARFARE, *LIGHTING EQUIPMENT, SIMULATION, PERFORMANCE(HUMAN), INFANTRY, TABLES(DATA), NIGHT VISION, GOGGLES.
Subject Categories : HUMANITIES AND HISTORY
MILITARY OPERATIONS, STRATEGY AND TACTICS

Distribution Statement : APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE


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60" Schedule for January 2007 (as of 09 March 2007)

January (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#JAN)February (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#FEB) March (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#MAR)April (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#APR)Programs (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#PROGRAMS) PDF (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.pdf) Schedules (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/index.shtml)
DATE MOON INST OBSERVER PI AND PROGRAM MMTJan 1 Mon 0.98 ECH PB ECH Combo NEW YEAR's DAYJan 2 Tue 1.00 " " "Jan 3 Wed 0.99 " " "Jan 4 Thu 0.97 " GE "Jan 5 Fri 0.92 " " "Jan 6 Sat 0.86 " " "Jan 7 Sun 0.78 " MC "Jan 8 Mon 0.70 FAST " FAST ComboJan 9 Tue 0.61 " " "Jan 10 Wed 0.52 " PB "Jan 11 Thu 0.42 " " "Jan 12 Fri 0.33 " " "Jan 13 Sat 0.24 " MC "Jan 14 Sun 0.16 " " " Jan 15 Mon 0.10 " " " MLK DAYJan 16 Tue 0.04 " PB "Jan 17 Wed 0.01 " " "Jan 18 Thu 0.00 " " "Jan 19 Fri 0.02 " MC "Jan 20 Sat 0.06 " " "Jan 21 Sun 0.12 " " "Jan 22 Mon 0.21 " PB "Jan 23 Tue 0.31 " " "Jan 24 Wed 0.42 " " "Jan 25 Thu 0.53 " MC "Jan 26 Fri 0.64 ECH " ECH ComboJan 27 Sat 0.74 " " "Jan 28 Sun 0.83 " Stefanik "Jan 29 Mon 0.91 " " "Jan 30 Tue 0.96 " " "Jan 31 Wed 0.99 " " "** MOON IS FRACTIONAL MOON ILLUMINATION AT MIDDLE OF NIGHT **** DATE IS STANDARD TIME AT START OF NIGHT
JAN Fast Combo (program & effective nights): (18 nights)Brown 166 (Halo) 1.5 nights, Rines 171 (MF) 2.5 nights, Mamajek (Youngassoc.) 1 night, Rines 172 (SDSS clusters) 1.5 nights, Steeghs 157(IPHAS sources) 1 night, Currie 170 (Chi Per) 1 night, Kenyon 12(Symbiotic) 0.5 night, Kirshner 2 (SN) 2.5 nights, Green 129 (ChaMP)1.5 nights, Kenyon 175 (Lynds 1622) 1 night, Briceno 112 (Ori B1) 1.5nights, Hao 126 (GRBs TOO) 1 night, Torres M. 149 (TOO XRN) 1 night,Spahr 173 (SSSB) 1 night, Huchra 141 (Nearby Universe) 1 night, Landt147 (AGN Sol.) 1 night.
NOTE: Projects are listed in order of decreasing priority per their TAC grades. Rare TOO targets (GRBs, XRNs) have highest priority.
Echelle Combo for trimester:Latham (Transit follow-up) 24 nights, Fernandez (Trans. low mass) 4nights, Torres G. (Accurate masses binaries) 9 nights, TorresG. (ROSAT) 4 nights, Torres (M star binaries SIM) 4 nights.
60" Schedule for February 2007 (as of 09 March 2007)

January (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#JAN)February (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#FEB) March (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#MAR)April (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#APR)Programs (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#PROGRAMS) PDF (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.pdf) Schedules (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/index.shtml)
DATE MOON INST OBSERVER PI AND PROGRAM MMTFeb 1 Thu 1.00 ECH Stefanik ECH ComboFeb 2 Fri 0.99 " " "Feb 3 Sat 0.96 " " "Feb 4 Sun 0.91 " MC "Feb 5 Mon 0.85 " " "Feb 6 Tue 0.77 " " "Feb 7 Wed 0.69 FAST PB FAST ComboFeb 8 Thu 0.60 " " "Feb 9 Fri 0.50 " " "Feb 10 Sat 0.41 " MC "Feb 11 Sun 0.31 " " "Feb 12 Mon 0.22 " " "Feb 13 Tue 0.14 " Peters " PB/HSFeb 14 Wed 0.07 " " " " VALENTINE'S DAYFeb 15 Thu 0.03 " " " "Feb 16 Fri 0.00 " " " "Feb 17 Sat 0.01 " " " MC/HSFeb 18 Sun 0.04 " Rines " "Feb 19 Mon 0.09 " " " " PRESIDENT'S DAYFeb 20 Tue 0.17 " " " "Feb 21 Wed 0.27 " " " PB/HSFeb 22 Thu 0.38 " " " PB/HCFeb 23 Fri 0.49 " Vaz " "Feb 24 Sat 0.60 " " " "Feb 25 Sun 0.70 " " " MC/HCFeb 26 Mon 0.79 ECH PB ECH Combo "Feb 27 Tue 0.87 " Latham " "Feb 28 Wed 0.93 " " " "** MOON IS FRACTIONAL MOON ILLUMINATION AT MIDDLE OF NIGHT **** DATE IS STANDARD TIME AT START OF NIGHT
FEB Fast Combo (program & effective nights): (19 nights)Brown 166 (Halo) 1.5 nights, Rines 171 (MF) 2.5 nights, Rines 172(SDSS clusters) 1 night, Steeghs 148 (Spiral Shocks TOO) 1 night,Steeghs 157 (IPHAS sources) 1 night, Currie 170 (Chi Per) 1 night,Kenyon 12 (Symbiotic) 0.5 night, Kirshner 2 (SN) 2.5 nights, Green 129(ChaMP) 1.5 nights, Briceno 112 (Ori B1) 1.5 nights, Hao 126 (GRBsTOO) 1 night, Torres M. 149 (TOO XRN) 1.5 nights, Spahr 173 (SSSB) 1night, Huchra 141 (Nearby Universe) 1 night, Landt 147 (AGN Sol.) 1night.
NOTE: Projects are listed in order of decreasing priority per their TAC grades. Rare TOO targets (GRBs, XRNs) have highest priority.
Echelle Combo for trimester:Latham (Transit follow-up) 24 nights, Fernandez (Trans. low mass) 4nights, Torres G. (Accurate masses binaries) 9 nights, TorresG. (ROSAT) 4 nights, Torres (M star binaries SIM) 4 nights.
60" Schedule for March 2007 (as of 09 March 2007)

January (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#JAN)February (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#FEB) March (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#MAR)April (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#APR)Programs (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#PROGRAMS) PDF (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.pdf) Schedules (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/index.shtml)
DATE MOON INST OBSERVER PI AND PROGRAM MMTMar 1 Thu 0.97 ECH Latham ECH Combo PB/HCMar 2 Fri 1.00 " " " "Mar 3 Sat 1.00 " " " "Mar 4 Sun 0.98 " " " MC/HCMar 5 Mon 0.95 " " " "Mar 6 Tue 0.90 " " " "Mar 7 Wed 0.83 " " " "Mar 8 Thu 0.76 FAST Hutchins FAST Combo PB/HCMar 9 Fri 0.67 " " " "Mar 10 Sat 0.58 " " " "Mar 11 Sun 0.48 " Groner " "Mar 12 Mon 0.38 " " " MC/HSMar 13 Tue 0.28 " " " "Mar 14 Wed 0.19 " Falco " "Mar 15 Thu 0.11 " " " "Mar 16 Fri 0.05 " PB "Mar 17 Sat 0.01 " " "Mar 18 Sun 0.00 " " "Mar 19 Mon 0.02 " MC "Mar 20 Tue 0.07 " " "Mar 21 Wed 0.14 " " " SPRING EQUINOXMar 22 Thu 0.23 " PB "Mar 23 Fri 0.33 " " "Mar 24 Sat 0.44 " " "Mar 25 Sun 0.55 " MC "Mar 26 Mon 0.65 " " "Mar 27 Tue 0.75 ECH " ECH ComboMar 28 Wed 0.83 " Latham "Mar 29 Thu 0.90 " " "Mar 30 Fri 0.95 " " "Mar 31 Sat 0.98 " " "** MOON IS FRACTIONAL MOON ILLUMINATION AT MIDDLE OF NIGHT **** DATE IS STANDARD TIME AT START OF NIGHT
MAR Fast Combo (program & effective nights): (19 nights)Brown 166 (Halo) 1.5 nights, Rines 171 (MF) 2.5 nights, Rines 172(SDSS clusters) 1.5 nights, Steeghs 148 (Spiral Shocks TOO) 1 night,Steeghs 157 (IPHAS sources) 1 night, Kenyon 12 (Symbiotic) 0.5 night,Kirshner 2 (SN) 2.5 nights, Green 129 (ChaMP) 1.5 nights, Briceno 112(Ori B1) 1.5 nights, Hao 126 (GRBs TOO) 1 night, Torres M. 149 (TOOXRN) 1 night, Spahr 173 (SSSB) 1 night, Huchra 141 (Nearby Universe) 1night.
NOTE: Projects are listed in order of decreasing priority per their TAC grades. Rare TOO targets (GRBs, XRNs) have highest priority.
Echelle Combo for trimester:Latham (Transit follow-up) 24 nights, Fernandez (Trans. low mass) 4nights, Torres G. (Accurate masses binaries) 9 nights, TorresG. (ROSAT) 4 nights, Torres (M star binaries SIM) 4 nights.
60" Schedule for April 2007 (as of 09 March 2007)

January (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#JAN)February (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#FEB) March (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#MAR)April (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#APR)Programs (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#PROGRAMS) PDF (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.pdf) Schedules (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/index.shtml)
DATE MOON INST OBSERVER PI AND PROGRAM MMTApr 1 Sun 1.00 ECH Latham ECH ComboApr 2 Mon 1.00 " " "Apr 3 Tue 0.97 " " "Apr 4 Wed 0.94 " " "Apr 5 Thu 0.88 " PB "Apr 6 Fri 0.81 FAST " FAST ComboApr 7 Sat 0.73 " MC "Apr 8 Sun 0.64 " " "Apr 9 Mon 0.54 " " "Apr 10 Tue 0.44 " " "Apr 11 Wed 0.33 " Rines "Apr 12 Thu 0.23 " " " PB/HSApr 13 Fri 0.14 " " " "Apr 14 Sat 0.07 " " " "Apr 15 Sun 0.02 " Peters " "Apr 16 Mon 0.00 " " " MC/HSApr 17 Tue 0.01 " " " "Apr 18 Wed 0.05 " " " "Apr 19 Thu 0.11 " " " "Apr 20 Fri 0.19 " Downes " PB/HCApr 21 Sat 0.29 " " " "Apr 22 Sun 0.39 " " " PB/HSApr 23 Mon 0.50 " " " "Apr 24 Tue 0.60 " " " MC/HCApr 25 Wed 0.69 ECH Stefanik ECH Combo "Apr 26 Thu 0.78 " " "Apr 27 Fri 0.85 " " "Apr 28 Sat 0.91 " " "Apr 29 Sun 0.96 " " "Apr 30 Mon 0.99 " " "** MOON IS FRACTIONAL MOON ILLUMINATION AT MIDDLE OF NIGHT **** DATE IS STANDARD TIME AT START OF NIGHT
APR Fast Combo (program & effective nights): (20 nights)Brown 166 (Halo) 1.5 nights, Rines 171 (MF) 2.5 nights, Rines 172(SDSS clusters) 1 night, Steeghs 148 (Spiral Shocks TOO) 1 night,Steeghs 157 (IPHAS sources) 1 night, Kenyon 12 (Symbiotic) 0.5 night,Kirshner 2 (SN) 2.5 nights, Green 129 (ChaMP) 1.5 nights, Briceno 112(Ori B1) 1.5 nights, Hao 126 (GRBs TOO) 1 night, Torres M. 149 (TOOXRN) 1.5 nights, Spahr 173 (SSSB) 1 night, Huchra 141 (NearbyUniverse) 1 night, Green 165 (Broad abs. var. QSOs) 1 night.
NOTE: Projects are listed in order of decreasing priority per their TAC grades. Rare TOO targets (GRBs, XRNs) have highest priority.
Echelle Combo for trimester:Latham (Transit follow-up) 24 nights, Fernandez (Trans. low mass) 4nights, Torres G. (Accurate masses binaries) 9 nights, TorresG. (ROSAT) 4 nights, Torres (M star binaries SIM) 4 nights.
60" Proposal Summary January-April 2007

January (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#JAN)February (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#FEB) March (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#MAR)April (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#APR)Programs (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.html#PROGRAMS) PDF (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/2007a.60.pdf) Schedules (http://www.sao.arizona.edu/html/sched/index.shtml)
Prog P.I. Grade

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HH-60 Class A Involving HC-130P Tankerhttp://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IBT/is_1-2_60/ai_113824933

All information comes from the Accident Investigation Board (AIB). This incident occurred when two HH-60s launched from a Forward Operating Base for an urgent medical evacuation mission. The mission occurred at night with minimal moon illumination, using NVGs in marginal weather with a line of thunderstorms and low clouds over the route of flight causing decreased visual cues. Takeoff and departure were uneventful and although air refueling was planned for after the MEDEVAC pickup, the lead helicopter aircraft commander made an inflight decision to refuel prior to pickup. Join-up with the tanker was uneventful, and the lead helicopter successfully engaged the left refueling drogue on the third attempt for a contact. The number two helicopter was positioned in the observation position (just outside the tanker's wingtip but no more than approximately two rotor disks away from the tanker) when the tanker signaled for an upcoming turn due to poor weather on the last ten miles of the air-refueling track. During the turn, the number two helicopter momentarily flew through a cloud. The lead helicopter had an inadvertent disconnect, moved away from the tanker's power enhancing drafting effect, abruptly lost altitude and impacted the rising terrain. The aircraft was destroyed and all six crewmembers were fatally injured.
While the AIB did not come up with a primary cause of this accident, it concluded three areas were contributors: mission altitude above ground level (AGL), night operations in zero moon illumination and the limited maneuver afforded at high altitude.

Virus
12/07/2007 2:19am,
I agree with Petter. Nobody who was actually this stupid could switch on a computer.

The key to good trolling is subtlety. (and that comes straight from CrackyMcSlughoot) Get your foot in the door before you become a blatant idiot.

Rating: 4/10

invinceable1234
12/07/2007 2:31am,
A troll is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum) or group with the singular intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#_note-0)

kohadril
12/07/2007 2:37am,
Four is generous, Virus. You're getting soft.

This thread almost makes me wish I had the moral fortitude to believe in a deity that orders genocide and sexual slavery in response to youthful dalliances. I guess I'm just a bad person.

invinceable1234
12/07/2007 2:38am,
It's true without oxygen I wouldn't be able to survive.

But actually the trees and other plants produce oxygen through photosynthesis if I remember correctly, not God

As to the bible, well I don't believe in the bible so how would the bible prove the existence of God to anyone who isn't christian.

YOU DON"T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD TO READ THE BIBLE.
YES TREE AND OTHER PLANTS PRODUCE OXYGEN BUT WHO CREATED THE TREE AND PLANTS?

Virus
12/07/2007 2:43am,
YOU DON"T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD TO READ THE BIBLE.
YES TREE AND OTHER PLANTS PRODUCE OXYGEN BUT WHO CREATED THE TREE AND PLANTS?

The Koreans.

kohadril
12/07/2007 2:44am,
The Koreans.
Kimchi cures cancer.

Also doing push-ups now.

invinceable1234
12/07/2007 2:47am,
A reason for my belief in God. I am witness to many miracles.
I know many other people that claim to have witness miracles. Have you ever held a premature baby in the palm of your hand and told by the physician, take your baby ( a daughter ) home she does not have long to live? She was less than 2 lbs. We prayed she would live and she did. We believe our prayer was answered by GOD. You can believe, whatever. But she is still alive and about to turn 40 soon. And proof would be in all the pictures we posses. And medical records.

Virus
12/07/2007 2:58am,
A reason for my belief in God. I am witness to many miracles.
I know many other people that claim to have witness miracles. Have you ever held a premature baby in the palm of your hand and told by the physician, take your baby ( a daughter ) home she does not have long to live? She was less than 2 lbs. We prayed she would live and she did. We believe our prayer was answered by GOD. You can believe, whatever. But she is still alive and about to turn 40 soon. And proof would be in all the pictures we posses. And medical records.

No, but I've held something else premature in the palm of my hand.

invinceable1234
12/07/2007 3:00am,
No, but I've held something else premature in the palm of my hand.



that sounds to me like a very perverted comment.

kohadril
12/07/2007 3:00am,
No, but I've held something else premature in the palm of my hand.
I was nervous!

DAYoung
12/07/2007 3:00am,
^ Sinner.

Tyrsmann
12/07/2007 3:50am,
YOU DON"T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD TO READ THE BIBLE.
YES TREE AND OTHER PLANTS PRODUCE OXYGEN BUT WHO CREATED THE TREE AND PLANTS?

Well I'm not that knowledgable on biology but I think science would say that the current species of trees and plants we have is from evolution.

Also, I'm not saying that you do you have to believe in God to read the bible. Atheists can read just as well as us Theists. But I am saying that bible cannot objectively prove the existence of God nor can other sacred texts.

Virus
12/07/2007 4:00am,
A reason for my belief in God. I am witness to many miracles.
I know many other people that claim to have witness miracles. Have you ever held a premature baby in the palm of your hand and told by the physician, take your baby ( a daughter ) home she does not have long to live? She was less than 2 lbs. We prayed she would live and she did. We believe our prayer was answered by GOD. You can believe, whatever. But she is still alive and about to turn 40 soon. And proof would be in all the pictures we posses. And medical records.

If God was so willing to intervene why the **** didn't he just make sure the baby's birth was normal?

Goldenmane
12/07/2007 4:01am,
I'm torn.

Torn, I tells ya.

invinceable1234 is, without doubt, a troll. And not a very good one.

So a part of me wants to ignore it.

The problem with trolls, though, is that sometimes it's tempting to respond.

So I'm torn.

I have an urge to point out that its style field says Taekwondo, which is either proof of trollness or good evidence that this person might just be stupid enough to be real.

Torn, I say!

26 posts, joined in Nov 07... and has at least one varrot.

Who gave this monkey a varrot?