BTW I found out what the guy meant by principals, basicaly he meant things like hitting your oponent when he is moveing and off balance and keeping your oponents hands below yours, i sent him a message saying that all that stuff is already general knowlege in other martial arts but people just dont catagorize those things and call them principals, they just tell you, hit the guy when he is going back or to get the persons hands down or too not use the same attack over and over again but to change so your opponent doesnt get used to it

He didn't list anything mystical yet, maby he is keeping those principals secretWell, that just goes to show the guy doesn't know what the **** he's talking about. Everything he described as unique to his system already exists in other martial arts.

As a matter of fact, any uber-aggressive, untrained scrapper worth its salt would know those things (or at least some of it) empirically.

He may not have spoken about mystical stuff, but the fact that he was willing to make assumptions and judgements on things that he doesn't know... and on top of that, to give you a lecture on why he would never learn other MA's (based on a faulty assumption) is a perfect example of the nefarious and ubiquitous bullshit that plagues martial arts.

My sifu doesn't charge for the Jow. Each style makes it a little differently and if you don't do it right then your not going to get the use out of it. All liniments he makes are free to his students. He doesn't sell them commercially. The simple fact is we don't learn the medicine until a later level. For what reason I don't know. I've found with everything else there has been a reason I learned it in that order.

Fair enuf, i knwo of at least one guy who charges money for it and much more than the amount it costs to make, you have one of the good guys training you

Knowing advanced first aid is nowhere near equivalent to being a doctor - not even in China.


I learned how to set broken bones when I was 13 years old (Civil Defense courses FTW). I learned the proper dosages for Aspirin, Tylenol, various antiboitics, and cough medicines when I was 9 (father a doc and mother a nurse FTW).

Does this make me a doctor? Of course not.

Fair enuf, i knwo of at least one guy who charges money for it and much more than the amount it costs to make, you have one of the good guys training you

There have been many people who have charged outrageous prices for injury liniments over the years.

That was one of the main reasons I started to sell my medicines publically. You can make 4 gallons of medicine from me for less than what you would pay for 4 gallons of the little bottles that are sold here in the USA.

Buyer beware, not all Chinese herb stores have safe herbs. many are so treated with sulfur and other things that its always worth your while to find a decent herb store.

Springwind in CA is a good one that has clean herbs that are tested.

Kamwo in NYC is another good one.

Mayway has many claims on their bags of herbs that they are metal free as well as being sulfur free.

I'm a Doctor, atleast I play one on the internets.

Principals are incharge of schools. Generally the main person or sometimes the main thing in some process.

Principle is a type of concept or theory. Most people confuse "principal" with "concept" and call the main theory components principles.

In Wing Tsun we say that Principles are not stand alone theorys but a group of concepts that work together to make a system. Concepts are the stand alone theorys that are more universal.

"Always go forward" is a WT principle that only works in conjunction with sticking, yeilding, and following. This makes a system that we use, they do not stand alone.

"Balance" is a Latosa Escrima Concept that applies to all MA and contains the above system of principles. It can be used as a stand alone theory.