Hypnosis: I was confused as to what I wanted when I went to the hypnotist and asked for enhanced strength. I got it and can occasionally brace myself so one or more people can't move me. Even my big lug of a friend has a lot of trouble and compares it to trying to slam wedged door. An obvious psychosomatic trick.
Meditation: (Vipassna school) Extremely useful. My friend who attends classes and is a vegetarian teetotaller is about 24 and looks about 16. She has been doing it for years. To my knowledge it split from mainstream Indian Buddhism about 30 years ago.
Qi Gong: The big one. When people ask me what Qi Gong is, I say "Chinese calisthenics and massage".
As an aside, my friend Professor Jack Pettigrew (retired) ran comparative studies between Catholic nuns and Tibetan monks and found that the left frontal lobes of each lit up, supporting his theory that prayer and meditation use the same mechanisms and happiness is "generated" by the left frontal lobe.
MEGA JESUS-SAMA
10/20/2007 4:17am,
what's your hippy friend's number? also does she shave or is she gross like normal hippies?
Jadonblade
10/20/2007 4:32am,
Ill ignore the first half of this post. Yes a few studies have been done which show monks actually being able to manually generate certain brain waves and even chemicals through meditation. Which is usefull for chilling out.
Toby Christensen
10/20/2007 4:48am,
what's your hippy friend's number? also does she shave or is she gross like normal hippies?
She's not a hippy and she keeps her hair immaculately short AND she's celibate.
Jadonblade
10/20/2007 4:57am,
She's not a hippy and she keeps her hair immaculately short AND she's celibate.
Do you find alot of girls tell you their celibate?
mrblackmagic
10/20/2007 9:01am,
Why is this forum not in sociocide? And why is spastic still posting middle of the road conjecture?
sochin101
10/20/2007 9:16am,
Why is this forum not in sociocide?
There's a poll in here somewhere...
Also, do you think this forum would have as much interest and as many threads and posts in such a short time if it was in Sociocide.
Not a troll-ish question, just as you post both places I was wondering what you thought...
bobyclumsyninja
10/20/2007 9:22am,
I felt they were one and the same. Meditate with thyself, or pray to your inner god. Good thread.
Is she celibate so she can retain her sexual chi (wasn't there a thread on that?)
+rep for being interesting. Spastic, you like me, need this kind of forum so we don't giggle ourselves into a fit.
Poop Loops
10/20/2007 3:20pm,
I know there was user on here that said meditation was a workout for the mind. He was promptly ridiculed at which point he gave the standard "You're not worth arguing with" or some bullshit like that.
EDIT: Oh no, I'm sorry, it was "You've obviously never meditated before." like he had t3h R34L meditation.
It's relaxation and a pretty good one. Lots of benefits for having a relaxed mind.
Gypsy Jazz
10/20/2007 4:02pm,
I know there was user on here that said meditation was a workout for the mind. He was promptly ridiculed at which point he gave the standard "You're not worth arguing with" or some bullshit like that.
EDIT: Oh no, I'm sorry, it was "You've obviously never meditated before." like he had t3h R34L meditation.
It's relaxation and a pretty good one. Lots of benefits for having a relaxed mind.
I've never been taught to meditate, though I have been lost in thoughts before. I don't know if that counts as the same thing.
Meditation has been shown to alter the structure/functioning of the brain in legit studies though. I think it's likely that any sort of intense thinking or "brain workouts" would do, though I don't know if that's actually true. I don't think it's too far fetched to call meditation a mind workout since it seems to exercise/perserve the brain at least fairly effectively.
HappyOldGuy
10/20/2007 4:20pm,
Michel Foucaults essay Technologies of the Self (http://www.thefoucauldian.co.uk/tself.htm) has shaped my thinking on these subjects a huge amount. Even though I take it alot of places that would make him roll over in his grave. Basically he divides human tachnologies into four categories
As a context, we must understand that there are four major types of these "technologies," each a matrix of practical reason: (I) technologies of production, which permit us to produce, transform, or manipulate things; (2) technologies of sign systems, which permit us to use signs, meanings, symbols, or signification; (3) technologies of power, which determine the conduct of individuals and submit them to certain ends or domination, an objectivizing of the subject; (4) technologies of the self, which permit individuals to effect by their own means or with the help of others a certain number of operations on their own bodies and souls, thoughts, conduct, and way of being, so as to transform I themselves in order to attain a certain state of happiness, purity, wisdom, perfection, or immortality.
Things like meditation, anything credible in alternative medicine, and most forms of spirituality fall into the 4th category. They are ways that we shape our subjective experience of the world, rather than the world itself. It also helps resolve one of the most common disconnects that people have when we talk about these issues, because the objective truth of a belief or a practice is not relevant to the effect that is has. If we have a silly superstition to whistle when we pass a graveyard, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference whether the whistling affects the world, what matters is how the whistiling affects us.
What, you expected better from a bunch of hairless monkeys?
Toby Christensen
10/20/2007 7:43pm,
Do you find alot of girls tell you their celibate?
Only nuns. I'm celibate myself, but I ain't no monk. One shrink referred to me as "monastic" because I was/am so pissed off with human snideness (such as your post) that I prefer exercise and books over secs.:eusa_wall
Toby Christensen
10/20/2007 7:56pm,
Why is this forum not in sociocide? And why is spastic still posting middle of the road conjecture?
It's not conjecture. It's my personal experience. I'm just trying to demystify three major passtimes and point out that the basic mechanics aren't that different.
MEGA JESUS-SAMA
10/20/2007 8:02pm,
Only nuns. I'm celibate myself, but I ain't no monk. One shrink referred to me as "monastic" because I was/am so pissed off with human snideness (such as your post) that I prefer exercise and books over secs.:eusa_wall
can't get any eh?
Toby Christensen
10/20/2007 8:05pm,
I'm on tranquilisers. I don't want any.
syberia
10/20/2007 8:08pm,
I'm on tranquilisers. I don't want any.
You sound like a four year old whose mother said he couldn't watch TV because he was naughty...