Everyone's favorite ex-Bullshido member.

http://www.bullshido.org/martialarts/John_F._Springer

I've got the ball rolling. People, help me fill in the blanks.

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I am happy to collate material explaining why I was taken in for so long, but it's obviously a staff decision on whether that is wanted or not.

He wasn't just punched in the head, he pleaded for the fight to end. He verbally tapped out. Osiris was nice enough not to armbar or continue punishing the fucker.

Add JFS' years of training. I think he says it on the video.

What's the weight difference between Os and JFS?

Yes, it is a noteworthy point that Osiris beat an opponent who appeared to have greater lean mass and reach who had claimed decades of hard training.

And who assaulted another forum member here.

JFS claims to weigh 230lbs at 6ft tall. **** talking aside (and I am in no doubt that he lost) he looked to me like he had a pretty low BF% for a 50 year old. He looked like he still worked out regularly.

Cullion, your participation is welcomed.

Did he ever say he taught Anti-grapple in his school.

Old frame BJJ should be explained clearly in the article.If i'm correct he claimed he learned it from Colombian police officers.

Also add Master of pankration.

One paragraph I think could be better worded:
"In another thread (which precipitated his leaving the Bullshido website), Springer was found to be teaching grappling and groundfighting to students even though he did not have any established rank in these areas; Springer only held verifiable rank in Chinese stand-up styles. "

The word I don't like is Rank. Rank means **** all most of the time. If an proven MMA fighter had no ranks you wouldn't say what he's teaching is invalid on that count alone.

Maybe a more general "techniques with claimed effectiveness beyond their realistic success rate, and implied expertise beyond that evidenced." - ok that's crap wording but you hopefully get my gist.

One paragraph I think could be better worded:
"In another thread (which precipitated his leaving the Bullshido website), Springer was found to be teaching grappling and groundfighting to students even though he did not have any established rank in these areas; Springer only held verifiable rank in Chinese stand-up styles. "

The word I don't like is Rank. Rank means **** all most of the time. If an proven MMA fighter had no ranks you wouldn't say what he's teaching is invalid on that count alone.

Maybe a more general "techniques with claimed effectiveness beyond their realistic success rate, and implied expertise beyond that evidenced." - ok that's crap wording but you hopefully get my gist.
I disagree. Most people that don't know still think grappling is gay and Rank is important.

We were watching pride at work and there were about 10-12 cat calls of gay during grappling.
These same people I had to school on Bruce Lee having no verifiable fight record.

Rank adds emphasis to the uninitiated.

Did he ever say he taught Anti-grapple in his school.

Old frame BJJ should be explained clearly in the article.If i'm correct he claimed he learned it from Colombian police officers.

Also add Master of pankration.
No I'm pretty sure a student came on and said it was the anti-grapple.

Later said student suddenly back tracked.

peoples silliness is no excuse for the voice of reason to give in to delusions that rank in and of itself counts for ****

peoples silliness is no excuse for the voice of reason to give in to delusions that rank in and of itself counts for ****
When writing an article explaining the situation you speak to the average audience not, the knowledgeable one.