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Metafour
7/08/2007 7:53pm,
Hey guys,
I only know a little bit about FMA's. I've been considering taking one up and stumbled across a school in Toronto named Kali De Leon. Has anyone heard of this school and/or knows of its practices? Any feedback would be appreciate. Thanks.

variance
7/16/2007 1:47am,
Kali De Leon

He might be related to my teacher who runs a offshoot of Modern Arnis called Arnis De Leon here in the DFW.

The Guy even kind of looks like my teacher.

What lineage does he claim? Pekiti Tirsia Kali or Modern Arnis?

My teachers lineage is Modern Arnis / Okinawan Karate-Judo and is one of Remy Presas' original students. (before the good professor went on his seminar circuit binge)

As for feedback on the school... alot of the curriculum from what i can gather on the site seems like standard FMA. (Aliveness/Flow) but whether they truly train with aliveness is another issue.

As usual just go, check it out.
Check for how they train (Compliant or not depending on what kind of drill)
Any ground work? take downs?

Are they just flicking the sticks or spinning them around like a baton? or are they actually stick fighting?

Check for the punyo length (usually no longer than a fist should be appropriate)

How does the school's environment make you feel, and most importantly how does the teacher come off to you?

Matt Bernius
8/15/2007 3:00pm,
Guro Doug Marcaida of Pekiti Tersia has nothing but good things to say about Guro Jun. Jun's worked with, sparred with, held his own against Gaje. He also has Dan Inasanto's respect.

As far as Guro Jun's lineage, I can't answer that. I know that he's been involved with Gaje and Pekiti Tersia over the years, and still travels to the PI for training camps.

The instruction in Toronto is top notch. I know that Guro Doug is a distance student of Jun's, travelling the four hours from Rochester for instruction.

Definitely check out the school.

- Matt

Ryno
8/15/2007 5:49pm,
Is he related to Guro Jay De Leon by any chance?

Matt Bernius
8/15/2007 6:30pm,
For those interested, here's Guro Jun's bio:

http://www.kalideleon.com/instructors.htm

Let me stress that just about everyone who I respect in the FMA respect Guro Jun. I can give him no better recommendation than that.

- Matt

Ryno
8/16/2007 1:41pm,
If he trained in Lightning Scientific under Mayuga he's got to know his stuff. It sounds like he has a really good (humble) attitude about training. With the amount of training he's put in with a lot of good instructors, he should have a wealth of knowledge.

Metafour
8/20/2007 3:48pm,
Much thanks for the contribution to the thread guys. I'll have to check it out!

ShawnG
2/22/2008 11:37am,
For FMA in Toronto Guro Jun DeLeon is the best there is.

Epa
2/22/2008 8:25pm,
He might be related to my teacher who runs a offshoot of Modern Arnis called Arnis De Leon here in the DFW.

I don't think Arnis De Leon is related to Kali De Leon stylistically. The Arnis De Leon I've heard about comes from Anding De Leon who trained under Remy Presas.

Looking at Guro Jun's bio he seems like he has a lot of experience and would be great to train with.

variance
2/23/2008 1:20am,
I don't think Arnis De Leon is related to Kali De Leon stylistically. The Arnis De Leon I've heard about comes from Anding De Leon who trained under Remy Presas.

Looking at Guro Jun's bio he seems like he has a lot of experience and would be great to train with.

You're likely right. after checking site, I agree.

Didn't think De Leon was that common a name in FMA.

Chili Pepper
2/23/2008 5:55pm,
Is he related to Guro Jay De Leon by any chance?

Nope.

Flipper
3/04/2008 10:39pm,
I've met Guro Jun and his senior students and attended a seminar by him. He's a superb instructor, and his style is excellent. He's highly regarded by senior FMA people I know and he's always visiting the country, keeping in touch with the culture.

selfcritical
3/04/2008 11:38pm,
Tuhon Gaje speaks very highly of Guro jun, particularly of his method of teaching doble' baston

Alogon
8/29/2008 1:47pm,
As a student of Guro Jun's, all I can say is I can see the skill he has and the senior students have a high level of skill.
I am just beginning but I looked around and have studied other styles and know what bad and good martial arts looks like.
Did you ever join?