"troll" means someone trying to stir up trouble on purpose .. somebody saying stuff just to get a response .. that's all.

I just thought you were kidding around to be funny.


>> Perhaps it was because I had an inherent skill for the science and never deviated from natural principles. - Miyamoto Musashi 1643

I got stuck wrestling with a woman once. Felt bad because she was hot and my coach just wanted my to stretch her ass out (and not on a Saturday night) to make her realize women don't belong in wrestling.

That sounds like a bitch assed thing to have you do.

holy necro. jesus 7 years.

Having rolled with many a woman over the years, it has never been sexual. Yes, there have been those that were oh so hot. Still, when the whistle/bell goes, it is time to roll and roll only.

Having a 14 year old judoka daughter who loves putting it to to boys, I hope it remains the same.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a scab.

Isn't bigdog some fat bitch married to malcomewhatshisfuckinface?

I hope it's ok to post in this old thread since other people have brought it back to life.

I have done boxing and grappling with a few girls. It's not really a big deal. Sometimes I'm not 100% sure if a certain grip will be ok or not. In that case I'll challenge myself to think of an alternative grip that works just as well.

The first girl I rolled with was someone half my weight in a pink gi. She had been training BJJ for 1 and a half years and I had about 3 weeks training at the time. She absolutely destroyed me ( of course ).

When rolling or sparring with girls you have to find a balance. If you go too rough on them before they have learned what you know, they will not enjoy the training and most likely leave. But if you go too soft on them, it's insulting and you are doing them a great disservice.

The few times I've gone really soft while boxing a girl, she has yelled at me not to be such a ***** about it and to Hit her properly. Lol.

All the girls I've trained with have been VERY mentally tough, and that counts for a lot and should be respected just like with anyone else.

holy necro. jesus 7 years.

Wow, I actually remember this thread.:thefinger

Hopefully being that there's valid discussion here the points are valid (if not the biggest necro I've seen),

my question is what to do when you humiliate a girl technically better than you? For example, when I first hit a bjj club (which I left for a 'nicer' club) I came in as a fresh whitebelt. I was paired up with this brazilian blue belt chick, she fell into guard and I pretty much dominated her. I feigned idiodicy a few times so I didn't have to sub her (had been doing judo for a fair while at that time but was nowhere as technically adept at ne waza as a bjj club).

She was still a handful, and I'm aware that I was almost definitely muscling her out, but combining muscle and (roughly) sound technique meant that I could move her way better than she could me, for example bridging to get out of mount could just fling her off, whereas she couldn't crack my closed guard.

She got quite upset, whereas I had made a deliberate attempt to not muscle her as best as I could. I'm not a strong guy for reference, 6'3 80kg. I mean, I wasn't just grabbing and rape choking her, but if you combine technique with just being heavier/stronger is it justified? or should one limit the force in their own technique to match theirs?

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Ah, that last sentence seemed about spot on. Alright, nevermind...

Hopefully being that there's valid discussion here the points are valid (if not the biggest necro I've seen),

my question is what to do when you humiliate a girl technically better than you? For example, when I first hit a bjj club (which I left for a 'nicer' club) I came in as a fresh whitebelt. I was paired up with this brazilian blue belt chick, she fell into guard and I pretty much dominated her. I feigned idiodicy a few times so I didn't have to sub her (had been doing judo for a fair while at that time but was nowhere as technically adept at ne waza as a bjj club).

She was still a handful, and I'm aware that I was almost definitely muscling her out, but combining muscle and (roughly) sound technique meant that I could move her way better than she could me, for example bridging to get out of mount could just fling her off, whereas she couldn't crack my closed guard.

She got quite upset, whereas I had made a deliberate attempt to not muscle her as best as I could. I'm not a strong guy for reference, 6'3 80kg. I mean, I wasn't just grabbing and rape choking her, but if you combine technique with just being heavier/stronger is it justified? or should one limit the force in their own technique to match theirs?

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Ah, that last sentence seemed about spot on. Alright, nevermind...

What would you do with a similarly sized blue belt male?

What would you do with a similarly sized blue belt male?

If you mean similarly sized to me:

Fight to win.
I'm gonna lose anyway so stick to what I know and don't give an inch.

If you mean similarly sized to her:

probably still fight to win now that I think about it. But if I can just smash through the fella I usually try not to, because i'm not getting better that way. To be honest I'd treat him much the same way as I do the girl.

I don't mind losing so long as I remain technical, but it's not a common situation I encounter as I'm about average strength and i've never really faced a guy much weaker than I.

would it be totally weird to ask how hard she wanted to go?

Hands end up on boobs from time to time. It only ever gets a second thought from me because I'm worried about it being awkward for them, it's clinical for me and completely separated from sensuality.

Just lookin' to create space, ma'am.

It's kind of funny watching guys freak the first time they put hands there. I always wait till it registers and say "It's okay, it's the nature of the game, get on with the roll" and then ignore it from then on.

After that it's their problem.

It's kind of funny watching guys freak the first time they put hands there. I always wait till it registers and say "It's okay, it's the nature of the game, get on with the roll" and then ignore it from then on.

After that it's their problem.

I rolled with a guy back home once and he put his hand on my chest. I dont care, whatever. He reacted like he'd accidentally punched me in the face. Kept apologising, it was totally ok if i wanted to take a minute, blah blah. Wouldn't listen to a word I said. Still doesn't, I dont look foward to rolling with him these days. I may as well use a grappling dummy, for all the movement he puts in.

holy necro. jesus 7 years.

thebigdog is systematically necromongreling every post on the site. :s

I don't have a problem sparring a girl just as I don't have a problem sparring a weaker guy. They may have better technique on the ground but I try to watch it on stand up and use the opportunity to work on my defense. Nothing to prove sparring.

Never saw the big deal about the boob grab.

I always just say "Uh, my bad, wasn't my intention" then fight on. Aren't we all grow'd up now?

Unless the lady you're rolling with has the full on two-cracked-eggs-on-a-pair-of-nails thing going on, you're probably posturing wrong if you're grabbing handfuls of tit while you're in her guard.