Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 4:45pm,
Who is gloating? Notice most people aren't even talking about the fight. They are talking about his **** talking and not getting a pass.
Some people are gloating and doing it in a back handed manner.
Discussing Rudy's technical falws is OK.
Adding the ha ha 25 years TCMA is the gloating part.
Also talking about how **** Rudy is or is not takes away from Anthony. The guy trained hard fought hard.
It is Fake
10/02/2007 4:49pm,
No it is Anthony's win trying to turn it into anything else actually diminished Anthony's accomplishment.
Bullshit.
What lead up to this entire thing?
**** talking. I mean if it was a legit MMA event with posturing on both sides I could agree.
This wasn't
Rudy: Hey Kung Fu works.
Anthony: I don't believe you.
Rudy: Cool lets test each other.
Anthony: Cool.
Anthony wins and we all talk **** you have a major point.
Rudy is a guy putting up a counter and gravestones up on his website. Was using a gif of Anthony losing to show he couldn't fight. He also used the avatar of Anthony's swollen eye as an avatar.
This is the same guy saying MT kicks are wrong and MMA punches are sloppy.
The fact Anthony is letting it go speaks volumes on his character.
I agree it should be let go. It doesn't diminish Anthony's victory in anyway except in your mind.
Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 4:55pm,
What are you talking about?
It is Fake
10/02/2007 4:57pm,
I notice this is your new Zen path lately. Good on you for changing direction.
Everything being discussed are things people brought up that would make Rudy a winner. Things he brought up himself. You are chastising people for making the SAME backhanded comments Rudy made.
Hell I can show you a post were someone said his 25 years of TCMA=MMA. So, this backhanded sarcasm is what he gets.
Now I understand the whole "let's be the bigger person" argument. That is what Anthony is doing. He hasn't gloated and shook hands with the guy. He left the animosity in the ring which I respect.
He has actually complimented the guy.
It is Fake
10/02/2007 4:58pm,
What are you talking about?
You making this fight into something it wasn't. This thing was an internet grudge match. Name calling and **** talking on both sides.
Trying to clean it up now is quite funny.
UpaLumpa
10/02/2007 4:59pm,
it was Anthony's fight, he trained hard he fought he kept his word and if he doesn't want to gloat frankly you shouldn't either.
It's Anthony's win not yours
No it is Anthony's win trying to turn it into anything else actually diminished Anthony's accomplishment.
These are idiotic posts.
Let me make this clear: I don't give a **** about the fight in that it doesn't change my view of Rudy, nor should it change anybody else's view of him. If Rudy had won, that similarly wouldn't have changed a damn thing about what sort of person he has portrayed himself to be.
An asshole got his ass kicked.
The fact that it is a jackass with 20 times the training time just makes it funny.
Adding the ha ha 25 years TCMA is the gloating part.
Actually, it is factually representing things. Given the bullshit Rudy has spouted it is important to stress that his 25 years failed in the face of 10 months of training. It makes his posting over the last several years hilariously farcical.
Doc,
I totally understand where you are coming from. What Rudy has done in the past should never be forgotten or forgiven.
The other side of the coin, he did step up, he did throw leather, and he took his loss as a man. For that, he gets my props. A little long in the making, but it got done. It's closure for that question.
We can now all agree that Rudy hasn't been effectively training to fight for the last 25 years. That question is indeed settled. His stepping up really isn't something to be impressed by though, he was supposedly a martial artist and skilled fighter. Agreeing to participate in competitive formats shouldn't be impressive, it should be expected. Rudy did what was expected of him only after constant goading and backing out for a hell of a long time, and trying via shenanigans to get out of this instance too.
One of the problems (that has been raised numerous times about people like Rudy, Clyde, JFS etc) is that fighting ability really isn't the key issue. Being condescending assholes is. The fact that some are and some aren't delusional assholes is a different issue. This is why, on some issues, fighting doesn't solve things.
Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 4:59pm,
oooooooooooookkkkkkkkayyyyy
Since I wasn't addressing Anthony or saying anything about him I am not sure of your point though.
I heard John Berardi is working on an article about internet challenge matches leading to weight loss......
Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 5:04pm,
You making this fight into something it wasn't. This thing was an internet grudge match. Name calling and **** talking on both sides.
Trying to clean it up now is quite funny.
What are you going on about?
No one is trying to clean it up. Just saying the fight happened it's over Rudy was an ass answered the challenge and lost. Until he posts again or acts like an ass the case is closed.
UpaLumpa
10/02/2007 5:06pm,
By the way at least one member of Rudy's team agrees:
get over it? what the **** do i care if he got his ass kicked? i think it is hilarious the he ran his mouth all these years and finally got slapped around.
he showed? bwahahhahahhha
wow, standards have really slipped over the years.
It is Fake
10/02/2007 5:09pm,
What are you going on about?
No one is trying to clean it up. Just saying the fight happened it's over Rudy was an ass answered the challenge and lost. Until he posts again or acts like an ass the case is closed.
It isn't closed. Doesn't matter if he never posts again. He laid the foundation for this crap. He lost and no one should comment?
If it bothers you so much stop posting in this thread.
Seriously.
No it is Anthony's win trying to turn it into anything else actually diminished Anthony's accomplishment.
Also talking about how **** Rudy is or is not takes away from Anthony. The guy trained hard fought hard
Meh unless he starts **** talking again I say the Rudy Abel chapter is closed let him get on with his life without provocative **** talking.
People discussing the vitriol coming out of Rudy's mouth has nothing to do with diminishing Anthony's win.
Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 5:18pm,
These are idiotic posts.
Let me make this clear: I don't give a **** about the fight in that it doesn't change my view of Rudy, nor should it change anybody else's view of him. If Rudy had won, that similarly wouldn't have changed a damn thing about what sort of person he has portrayed himself to be.
An asshole got his ass kicked.
The fact that it is a jackass with 20 times the training time just makes it funny.
Actually, it is factually representing things. Given the bullshit Rudy has spouted it is important to stress that his 25 years failed in the face of 10 months of training. It makes his posting over the last several years hilariously farcical.
We can now all agree that Rudy hasn't been effectively training to fight for the last 25 years. That question is indeed settled. His stepping up really isn't something to be impressed by though, he was supposedly a martial artist and skilled fighter. Agreeing to participate in competitive formats shouldn't be impressive, it should be expected. Rudy did what was expected of him only after constant goading and backing out for a hell of a long time, and trying via shenanigans to get out of this instance too.
One of the problems (that has been raised numerous times about people like Rudy, Clyde, JFS etc) is that fighting ability really isn't the key issue. Being condescending assholes is. The fact that some are and some aren't delusional assholes is a different issue. This is why, on some issues, fighting doesn't solve things.
No one is saying that you should like Rudy but it's not your victory, you didn't train hard loose weight or step up in a full contact fight, Rudy and Anthony did.
And your comment about being condesending asshole is pretty funny considering you have constantly been a condesneding asshole on many occasions only making snarky comments whose sole purpose is your own (an 3-4 others) titialation. (OK some times I laugh at your **** but still)
**** talking the guy after he lost seems petty and pointless.
It is Fake
10/02/2007 5:20pm,
You know what Soju?
I'm done.
We tend to agree on everything but, challenges.
I believe in "you reap what you sow."
You believe in "live and let live."
I can respect that.
Before you say it yes, we both probably agree on the above quotes in certain circumstances just not in this one.
Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 5:22pm,
People discussing the vitriol coming out of Rudy's mouth has nothing to do with diminishing Anthony's win.
Actually no talking about what a **** fighter Rudy is takes away form Anthony's win and training.
there's a difference between Osiris remarking that the fight shows you need good grappling, which is a fair comment, and the ha ha 25 years and he sucks comments.
One is an analytical statement the other is gloating.
Goju - Joe
10/02/2007 5:22pm,
You know what Soju?
I'm done.
We tend to agree on everything but, challenges.
I believe in "you reap what you sow."
You believe in "live and let live."
I can respect that.
Before you say it yes, we both probably agree on the above quotes in certain circumstances just not in this one.
OK I am done to ignore my comments above
UpaLumpa
10/02/2007 5:23pm,
I really am still unclear on how my pointing out that Rudy was, is and probably will remain an asshole somehow is me making this "my victory" or whatever. This changes jackshit about Rudy. Do you respect the sum or a single action that should have been expected?
Oh, and the difference is that I'm right.
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