Well, maybe not start back right at the original rank immediately, but certainly not to pay for it all over again. I think that would make more sense. Your right, teachers and doctors need to be re-educated after a certain number of years, otherwise they lose their license. So, starting over at white might be a good idea, but I think it's a bit unfair to have to PAY for each rank again until you get back to your original rank. But the business of martial arts probably could not afford such a thing, since that student would basically be requesting free lessons at the new training school until he or she is able to perform at his or her level in the past. O well, it would really come down to the individual situation. I agree that the pseudo-karate thing is bogus, Tae Kwon Do is very different from Karate. I think that the problem is simply the modern perception on the martial arts themselves. Many schools are quick to call themselves "karate dojos" yet when you enter this "dojo" they offer Tae Kwon Do. Personally, I went to a "dojo" where the Tae Kwon Do students and the Karate students took the same training, only the kata was taught separate. I think the "dojo" term being applied to any training hall is the same way. The whole "BOW TO YOUR SENSEI" and "COME TO MY DOJO" and "YOU DO KA-RA-TE (ie any martial art)??" has become the modern persception of the arts by the uninformed. But this is just conjecture, maybe there is some truth to it.

Sorry about that. I like to say dojo more(More people call it dojos, so I like to call it dojos). And I meant that there's no Kyu in Tae Kwon Do (for all I know).

Only ignorant people call TKD schools dojo.

And then to turn about and say that there's no "kyu" ranks in TKD is makes me feel sorry for you.

First of all, you cant compare a TKD BB to a Medical Degree. The amount of knowledge required is nowhere near the same. Having said that I understand the analogy, Im just stating that it doesnt apply here.

Secondly, I agree with JT. If you havent practiced in years, then the right thing to do is, train for a time, and bring yourself back up to speed. Most dojang/schools will at least see what you know before deciding on your rank. If you look like you have the skills of a purple belt, then thats where you should start.

Why do I say this? Because it easy for someone to say..."I earned a 3 Degree BB in 1985. I would like to join your school."
Now, the excuse of, well the school has closed, it was a 1,000 miles away, and so on can be used, because there is no way of verifying the rank without testing them first.

So if you really want to stay at your current rank, but not stay at an organized school, then TRAIN.
If your ego wont let you start over at White Belt, when you clearly dont have the skill set of a BB, then you need counseling.

So if you really want to stay at your current rank, but not stay at an organized school, then TRAIN.
If your ego wont let you start over at White Belt, when you clearly dont have the skill set of a BB, then you need counseling.


I believe that just about says it all ..

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So if you really want to stay at your current rank, but not stay at an organized school, then TRAIN.
If your ego wont let you start over at White Belt, when you clearly dont have the skill set of a BB, then you need counseling.

I completely agree. Poor kid. Hopefully he will come across an instructor that will set him straight.

Only ignorant people call TKD schools dojo.

And then to turn about and say that there's no "kyu" ranks in TKD is makes me feel sorry for you.

Let's see. A dojo is alot easier to type, not to mention, all the martial art practicers I talk to (not just TKD fighters) refer to it as a dojo. Since more people I know call it dojo, I just call it dojo.
Also, what I meant was that the degree ranks in TKD aren't called Kyu. They're called geups and I heard people refer to it as degrees before.

Let's see. A dojo is alot easier to type, not to mention, all the martial art practicers I talk to (not just TKD fighters) refer to it as a dojo. Since more people I know call it dojo, I just call it dojo.
Also, what I meant was that the degree ranks in TKD aren't called Kyu. They're called geups and I heard people refer to it as degrees before.
Dude, you're not making any sense here. At least try to be consistent with your terminology. Sure , Taekwondo was influenced karate, but Taekwondo is a Korean martial art.

It's not that hard:

Korean - Japanese - English
dobok - gi - uniform
dojang - dojo - training hall or school
poomse - kata - form
gup - kyu - class (under Black Belt)
dan - dan - degree (of Black Belt)

Two extra letters to type dojang compared to dojo? Are you in that big of a hurry? Just because you know people who use Japanese names to describe Korean MA doesn't make it right. You do realize that you are posting in a KMA forum, right? AND your style field says Tae Kwon Do, not "Korean Karate"?

Let's see. A dojo is alot easier to type, not to mention, all the martial art practicers I talk to (not just TKD fighters) refer to it as a dojo. Since more people I know call it dojo, I just call it dojo.
Also, what I meant was that the degree ranks in TKD aren't called Kyu. They're called geups and I heard people refer to it as degrees before.

I believe Errants point (if I may speak for him) was that , you are coming across as a know it all. Therefore, you should have your terminology down BEFORE you lecture.

Cool? Good. Try harder next time.

Dude, you're not making any sense here. At least try to be consistent with your terminology. Sure , Taekwondo was influenced karate, but Taekwondo is a Korean martial art.

It's not that hard:

Korean - Japanese - English
dobok - gi - uniform
dojang - dojo - training hall or school
poomse - kata - form
gup - kyu - class (under Black Belt)
dan - dan - degree (of Black Belt)

Two extra letters to type dojang compared to dojo? Are you in that big of a hurry? Just because you know people who use Japanese names to describe Korean MA doesn't make it right. You do realize that you are posting in a KMA forum, right? AND your style field says Tae Kwon Do, not "Korean Karate"?

Okay, I get it. I'll call it a dojang while I'm on the KMA forum.

Let's see. A dojo is alot easier to type, not to mention, all the martial art practicers I talk to (not just TKD fighters) refer to it as a dojo. Since more people I know call it dojo, I just call it dojo.
Also, what I meant was that the degree ranks in TKD aren't called Kyu. They're called geups and I heard people refer to it as degrees before.

This is what you get for living in Wisconsin. There's a whole world out there full of people much less ignorant than you.

Are there that few Koreans in Milwaukee?


Okay, I get it. I'll call it a dojang while I'm on the KMA forum.

Or any other time you don't wanna sound like a frelling idiot...

I believe Errants point (if I may speak for him) was that , you are coming across as a know it all. Therefore, you should have your terminology down BEFORE you lecture.

Cool? Good. Try harder next time.

+1 shot of Chamisul for the ajushi.

This is what you get for living in Wisconsin. There's a whole world out there full of people much less ignorant than you.

Are there that few Koreans in Milwaukee?



Or any other time you don't wanna sound like a frelling idiot...

I haven't even met a Korean in Milwaukee. The closest I met was a guy from Japan in China, but not Korea.

Dude, you're not making any sense here. At least try to be consistent with your terminology. Sure , Taekwondo was influenced karate, but Taekwondo is a Korean martial art.

It's not that hard:

Korean - Japanese - English
dobok - gi - uniform
dojang - dojo - training hall or school
poomse - kata - form
gup - kyu - class (under Black Belt)
dan - dan - degree (of Black Belt)

Two extra letters to type dojang compared to dojo? Are you in that big of a hurry? Just because you know people who use Japanese names to describe Korean MA doesn't make it right. You do realize that you are posting in a KMA forum, right? AND your style field says Tae Kwon Do, not "Korean Karate"?
Form is also "hyung" in Korean. Although that also means something like "big brother"

I haven't even met a Korean in Milwaukee. The closest I met was a guy from Japan in China, but not Korea.

I rest my case, your honor.

The roundeye was taught wrong for the lulz.

Form is also "hyung" in Korean. Although that also means something like "big brother"

Different Hanja, lol.

The Hanja 形 is pronounced kata in Japanese and hyeong in Korean.

Rank is really a state of mind, for example: a black belt ought to be able to defend himself. Chuck Liddell can defend himself (useless rampage is attacking him, then he curls up like a girl) but Chuck is not a black belt. Who needs rank, its about ability.

A belt is nothing more than fabric and stitching. If you want to keep your rank so bad (or even jump up a couple) just order a belt from Century or macho.